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    Default B&S saxophone serial numbers

    Anyone have any information on the B&S saxophone serial numbers (years)? I believe the stencils were made prior to the company making their own Medusas, as both my CJS alto and CJS tenor have earlier serial numbers then the two Medusa tenors I recently acquired.

    01502x and 01573x is the spread between four horns that I have seen with The GB B&S labeled Medusas being toward the end and the stencils being at the front.

    If anyone has any info to add, I think it might be interesting. I think it will show that even with the stencils included these horns (Medusas) have low production numbers (not a big surprise).

    It would be interesting to see if CJS (Allora, Courtois) horns are in a certain range, or whether they were all mixed. It might suggest whether any manufacturing changes took place between 'brands'. If the serials are all mixed then it would probably suggest there is really no difference in any of them.

    What's your serial?
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    My 2001 tenor is 13,6XX and my Medusa Goldbrass Alto is 15,7XX. Hmm, wonder how close to your 15,7XX ??

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    No useful info. to add except that my 2001 alto is 012,6XX .
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    The two GB Medusa tenors I have seen are within 50 pts of each other. Looks like yours is close too. Actually one of the GB Medusas belongs to a friend. Mine is still in transit.

    The info on 2001s is good too. Thanks guys!
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    I have a 2001 Series Lacquer Tenor with serial # 101XX

    From what I have been told it should be 7 to 8 years old.

    It also has the G# bridge. I have seen 2001's on E_bay that did not have this feature.

    My Silver plated tenor had a 2XXX serial and was about 30 years old.

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    My B&S 2001 Tenor has 6xx SN.
    I was mailing with a B&S man and he tell to me that that sax is from 1994.
    My sax seems a GB (and that man says it is) but is nothing engraving on it saying this.

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    I bought my black nickel Guardala Pro tenor in 2002. I had the feeling it had been in the shop 6 mos or so. Its serial no is 0124XX.

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    with the Guardalas B+S startet a new numbering: all saxes they have made since (tenors/altos - Guardalas, stencils, Medusas) are in one row from 000000 up to 016xxx...

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    Tenors: Allora 014399 gig horn. CJS 014898 stash horn for future speculation. Maybe Grumps will buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 58tenor
    Maybe Grumps will buy it.
    Now that's funny!
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    My Goldbrass Medusa is serial 01567X

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    MY DG400BN alto is SN 00151XX. Got is just before Xmass... Most "fun" horn i have played.

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    I should add that it was bough as "old stock" ie brand new

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    I got mine from Kessler December 2005, Silver Courtois # 0160xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruediger Kramer
    with the Guardalas B+S startet a new numbering: all saxes they have made since (tenors/altos - Guardalas, stencils, Medusas) are in one row from 000000 up to 016xxx...
    Hey Ruediger Kramer,
    I don't suppose you have any ideas about what the "old system" was...
    (For the "Blue Label" horns)
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    Quote Originally Posted by xax
    Hey Ruediger Kramer,
    I don't suppose you have any ideas about what the "old system" was...
    (For the "Blue Label" horns)
    No, i don´t - should i?
    (The Blues Labels were made in the German Democratic Republic... so they are Communist horns )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruediger Kramer
    No, i don´t - should i?
    I don't know...should you?
    I just thought that since you know what the "new system" is and when it started, you might know something about the "old" system.
    I have not found anyone who does know how to date "blue label" horns. I have 2 blue label tenors and haven't been able to get any information about their dates of manufacture. (even saxwelt.de asked the B&S president, who told him there are no serial number lists...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruediger Kramer
    (The Blues Labels were made in the German Democratic Republic... so they are Communist horns )
    So were the Communist horns built by the same craftsmen, at the same factory that built the more recent ones?
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    Mandrake, you ever see commie drink water?


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    Quote Originally Posted by xax
    I don't know...should you?
    I just thought that since you know what the "new system" is and when it started, you might know something about the "old" system.
    I have not found anyone who does know how to date "blue label" horns. I have 2 blue label tenors and haven't been able to get any information about their dates of manufacture. (even saxwelt.de asked the B&S president, who told him there are no serial number lists...)



    So were the Communist horns built by the same craftsmen, at the same factory that built the more recent ones?
    made before 1990 by the same craftsmen, yes, yes...

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    Does the same serial number range apply to the student B & S Sonora horns and also ones like my Meister, made by B & S, the same as a Sonora?
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