Keilwerth SX90 baritones, how are they?

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    Default Keilwerth SX90 baritones, how are they?

    Looking for your opinions on the Keilwerth SX90 Low A baritones.
    I have play tested the tenor versions of SX90 at a local music store and found it very ordinary.
    Although it was not set up well at all and seemed to have leaks.
    No Keilwerth bariís available for testing locally unfortunately.
    Particularly interested in hearing from those who own and play one regularly or who have done in the past.
    How are the ergos for big handed fellows like myself?
    The 62 Yamaha bariís feel very much as though they are made for small hands.
    Is this also the case with the Keilwerth bariís?
    Tone wise how are they.
    Do they have a meatier tone than the Yamaha and Yanagisawa Low A horns?
    Thanks for in advance.
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    Years ago I (2000-ish) I played tested an SX90 Bari against a Selmer series 2 particularly in relation to playing it professionally in a classical quartet. My feelings were that the Keilwerth blew very well, better even than the Selmer, but had a less complex sound than the Selmer. I felt the Keilwerth put me in marching band territory, the Selmer firmly into quartet.

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    Default Re: Keilwerth SX90 baritones, how are they?

    There is a sub that plays a J-K bari with our big band. Aside from the fact that it is a different person playing it, as I hear it from the other end of the section, the J-K has less focus, less complexity, and less grunt, than either Yanagisawa B-992 or Selmer Mk VI that the regular bari player uses.
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    I agree, I found it a bit interesting that some of the classic characteristics (big tone with character, etc.) that make the SX90 Tenor popular are missing in the Bari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B Flat View Post
    Looking for your opinions on the Keilwerth SX90 Low A baritones.
    I have play tested the tenor versions of SX90 at a local music store and found it very ordinary.
    Although it was not set up well at all and seemed to have leaks.
    No Keilwerth bariís available for testing locally unfortunately.
    Particularly interested in hearing from those who own and play one regularly or who have done in the past.
    How are the ergos for big handed fellows like myself?
    The 62 Yamaha bariís feel very much as though they are made for small hands.
    Is this also the case with the Keilwerth bariís?
    Tone wise how are they.
    Do they have a meatier tone than the Yamaha and Yanagisawa Low A horns?
    Thanks for in advance.
    Ciao Nick, I play a Sx90 bari made in 90's (former Low A but transformed in Low Bb): I think that the ergos are made for big handed fellows (I'm not and I struggle a bit with the pinky finger and the palmar keys).

    I consider the sound full like a vintage sax and the Keilwerth SX90 as a good modern answer to the old Conn Bari.

    My bari was converted to Bb by a former owner, Red Pellini a mainstream sassofonist well knowed in Italy. I have buyed it by another player, Fabrizio D'alisera.

    You can ear the sax played by Fabrizio at these links:
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    I have posted a lot of my takes on this bari on several TOTM since july 2017; I am a poor player but the sax sound good.

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    Default Re: Keilwerth SX90 baritones, how are they?

    Iím a little surprised at the responses on this thread! I tend to agree with the above post. But then again, I play one, and I really like it!

    Iím a large hand-ed fellow, so I think the ergos are just fine on the SX90, but I can see how they may feel clunky in smaller hands.
    Tone-wise, maybe mouthpiece selection has a larger effect than on other saxes? Just a guess.
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    Thanks everybody for your thoughts.
    These are difficult to get peopleís reviews on as they donít seem to be as common as Yamaha and Yanagisawa etc.
    Good to hear that the ergos may be to my liking.
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    Default Re: Keilwerth SX90 baritones, how are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by B Flat View Post
    Tone wise how are they.
    Thanks for in advance.
    Listen to some late Nick Brignola recordings. He switched to a Keilwerth toward the end of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlrsax View Post
    Listen to some late Nick Brignola recordings. He switched to a Keilwerth toward the end of his career.
    Didn't he use a low-Bb Keilwerth though?
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    Nick sounds great on his SX-90.
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    Nick Brignola is part of the reason for my interest in these horns.
    His looks to have been a low A horn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B Flat View Post
    Nick Brignola is part of the reason for my interest in these horns.
    His looks to have been a low A horn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbieg View Post
    There is also this one.
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