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    Rampone & Cazzani baritones have to be among the most impressive among the new saxophones out there.

    I hope that OP funkysaxo will gain much wisdom from all these comments.

    Personally, although I am not really a baritone player, I find that low Bb baritones have a certain je ne sais quoi when it comes to sound and perhaps due to the fact that the majority that I have had tend to have a bell flare much wider than the Low A ones, they sound, to my ears, rather more “ powerful” than Low A do.

    I understand that reaching that sounding low C could be called for in some rare occasions, but many players have never felt the need for the low A (which can be reached with a couple of stratagems by the way, like having someone to half cover the bell or adding a carton) in years and years when the majority of the baritone saxophones (for sure in the States) were produced without this feature.
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    Default Re: Which would be a good baritone sax with low Bb?

    I gave up my Bb Bari (( which I loved ) for a low A Bari , only because I believed I'd need the low A. I finally got that call... A gig with a funk band... I was shocked ... EVERY tune had low As....

    You don't seem to have a budget problem... There are lots of great baris out there.

    I'll go as far to say that modern baris are perhaps taking modern playing more into consideration .

    If your really set on a low Bb horn, Martins and Bueschers are amazing for the money. I'm still trying to justify buying one ))
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    That was great information click. I was just about to post and say that my Jupiter JBS-593 Low-A feels like it weighed the same as my Selmer Mark VI Low-Bb Bari, but I guess you basically have the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbieg View Post
    That was great information click. I was just about to post and say that my Jupiter JBS-593 Low-A feels like it weighed the same as my Selmer Mark VI Low-Bb Bari, but I guess you basically have the numbers.


    I see no reason to doubt the measurements, especially since they seem to agree. But I did not weigh or compile anything. I just assumed that there was a chart like this somewhere, and then searched for it, found it, copied it, and posted it here.

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    Another vote for the Martin Committee III here.
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    Thanks so much. Today my Durga bari mpc arrived, so I am ready to go out and try some baris. I am excited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkysaxo View Post
    Thanks so much. Today my Durga bari mpc arrived, so I am ready to go out and try some baris. I am excited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkysaxo View Post
    Thanks so much. Today my Durga bari mpc arrived, so I am ready to go out and try some baris. I am excited!
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    Good luck, have fun. Also take a tuner with you, a Durga is way too expensive of a piece to end up finding out it doesn't play well with the new horn you bought.
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    true but any new horn mouthpiece combination requires some time for your body to adjust to tuning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbieg View Post
    That was great information click. I was just about to post and say that my Jupiter JBS-593 Low-A feels like it weighed the same as my Selmer Mark VI Low-Bb Bari, but I guess you basically have the numbers.
    The chart can be interpreted in a few ways. I mean, I basically look at it and see it as saying "there's a difference, generally, but it may not be as significant a difference as one would expect".

    This is why I think the 'impression' that the Low A is significantly heavier has something to do with the exterior envelope of the horn itself. They DO 'feel' different, and IMHO have a different relationship with one's field of vision than a low Bb...
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    Since you are in germany, you could try out the Thomann lowJazz models, which go to low Bb and send it back if you don't like it: https://www.thomann.de/de/thomann_lo...ritone_sax.htm

    I always liked the higher priced thomann horns, but did not play one of their baritons yet (despite the cheap TBS 150, which is not bad for the money).

    But the loss will be high, if you ever want to sell it (because you need low A for your funk bands)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayeLID View Post
    The chart can be interpreted in a few ways. I mean, I basically look at it and see it as saying "there's a difference, generally, but it may not be as significant a difference as one would expect".

    This is why I think the 'impression' that the Low A is significantly heavier has something to do with the exterior envelope of the horn itself. They DO 'feel' different, and IMHO have a different relationship with one's field of vision than a low Bb...
    True - I'd also offer that the extra weight, at least in the longer bell, makes the center of gravity and balance different so the distribution of the weight has some bearing as well.

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    You can try our Lupifaro, the same sax played from Lou Marini from the Blues brothers and Mario Marzi from the Scala.
    You can find it in Berlin by "Die Holzblàser" or if you prefere you can come to visit us in Switzerland and you can compare with an original Mark VI from 1949.
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    Thanks Roberto. It sounds great but my maximum budget is 5000€. Maybe I can buy one but only an used one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milandro View Post
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    I replied 4 days ago. Thanks

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