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    I've been playing .105 Link-style pieces for years, mainly because this has for some reason emerged as the "standard" size for this kind of tenor piece. Realizing that a lot of the guys I look up to from the past played smaller-tips (5-6*), I've been thinking about giving this a try. Looking for a nice, focused, dark-medium tone, with that typical "hollow" Link thing that goes on with these.

    Would I be better of going HR for something like this? I really don't want to spend a ton of money (less than $200) for this diversion, in case it's a total disaster and I want to move it along to someone else.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?
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    Modern NY otto link in a 6*

    I played one for a number of years and it was really a great mouthpiece.

    You can find one for under $200 for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlewailer View Post
    Modern NY otto link in a 6*

    I played one for a number of years and it was really a great mouthpiece.

    You can find one for under $200 for sure.

    I own a refaced NY STM in .105 that I like.
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    What about a metal Vandoren V16 T5 ..... you could get one on trial from WWBW just to see how that tip range feels. I think the T5 is around .090 and has a larger chamber more like a NY Link.
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    Metal Links deliver quite well in that range. If that is what you are used to playing, my recommendation would be to stay with the STMs.
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    Ok, thanks, this makes sense. Large chamber, smaller tip. May be a task to find a current metal Link that won't need a re-face...
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    I have a modern STM NY in a 6* facing here

    Also, a Meyer and Johnston-Selmer (HR) in that tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ View Post
    I have a modern STM NY in a 6* facing here

    Also, a Meyer and Johnston-Selmer (HR) in that tip.
    I see a NY STM 0.085 tip would that be a 5* ? or is it a typo
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    DOH!!!

    my mistake... it is actually 5* at 0.085"
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddy lee View Post
    Would I be better of going HR for something like this? I really don't want to spend a ton of money (less than $200) for this diversion, in case it's a total disaster and I want to move it along to someone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddy lee View Post
    I own a refaced NY STM in .105 that I like.
    Thing is, here, you are changing 2 variables: the tip opening, and the material.

    Quote Originally Posted by EZ View Post
    Metal Links deliver quite well in that range. If that is what you are used to playing, my recommendation would be to stay with the STMs.

    I agree. If you are happy with a Link metal, why not just experiment by changing the tip opening variable ? Looks like more contemporary NY STM's of .100 or below can occasionally be had for under $200 these days....seems the smaller tips aren't as popular (?) If you didn't like it, I doubt you take much of a loss on reselling, really...

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    Second the metal V16 T5...roughly a slink 6. The T6 is .098. Both are excellent mouthpieces. That Link from EZ sounds fun too! You’ll only miss the large tip opening when you’re trying to find things wrong with the smaller one. Like you said, most of the guys we try to cop were all playing 5-6* tips. A microphone will do way more for you than a bigger tip opening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swperry1 View Post
    Second the metal V16 T5...roughly a slink 6. The T6 is .098. Both are excellent mouthpieces. That Link from EZ sounds fun too! You’ll only miss the large tip opening when you’re trying to find things wrong with the smaller one. Like you said, most of the guys we try to cop were all playing 5-6* tips. A microphone will do way more for you than a bigger tip opening.
    Those metal V16's aren't cheap new =( I agree with you otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayePDX View Post
    Thing is, here, you are changing 2 variables: the tip opening, and the material.



    I agree. If you are happy with a Link metal, why not just experiment by changing the tip opening variable ? Looks like more contemporary NY STM's of .100 or below can occasionally be had for under $200 these days....seems the smaller tips aren't as popular (?) If you didn't like it, I doubt you take much of a loss on reselling, really...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Otto-Link-S...oAAOSwf15aU-i-

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Otto-Link-N...MAAOSw0ZJajJwt

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Otto-Link-S...kAAOSwXCBaPKqW


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    Quote Originally Posted by buddy lee View Post
    Those metal V16's aren't cheap new =( I agree with you otherwise.
    True. I’ve seen a few come across used, but not in the smaller openings. I also scored an MFRY worked link (floridated) that was .085 or so that I played for a full year. Super nice and not that expensive (used of course).

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    Weiner has a B-Stock 5* STM NY for less than $150 on their web shop. It has the quotes around the "Super", so it's an older unit. The descriptions says it's been in the shop for a while. Of course, that might be because it's a dog player.

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    If you are dealing with machine pieces...which you likely are due to price, you introduce the variable if consistency along with tip size.

    If its a decent piece younwill certainly know if you feel better on a small piece. However, small tips also have a different vibe ...especially with large chaber link like pieces. It will be harder to know if tone changes are the result of being a different piece or a different tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmund451 View Post
    If you are dealing with machine pieces...which you likely are due to price, you introduce the variable if consistency along with tip size.

    If its a decent piece younwill certainly know if you feel better on a small piece. However, small tips also have a different vibe ...especially with large chaber link like pieces. It will be harder to know if tone changes are the result of being a different piece or a different tip.
    Very true on all points...
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    I played a stock 5* Link for years and an old D Soloist for a few more. I finally moved up to larger tip openings. I play a 6 Link now.
    I’ve never understood where the idea of a 7* being the “standard” when no player I’ve ever heard played one.

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    Whaler, get with the program.

    Throw away all your mpcs and get a standard size. While you are at it get rid of all those shoes in your closet and get the size everyone else is wearing
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    Default Re: Want to Experiment w/ Smaller Tips

    You might want to look at a Yanagisawa metal #6. Those have a .085” tip like a Link 5*. Completely different chamber, though.

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