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    Default How do you calculate "percent original lacquer?"

    Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I see all of these vintage horn posts where people advertise the % original lacquer left on the horn. I get the rough estimate technique where one might look at the horn and say "it's got about 50% left," but now I'm starting to see things like 97%, 85%, etc. Unless someone came up with a way to measure the surface area of the horn and the surface area of the lacquer, these exact percentages seem like a load of bull. Is there actually a proper method for measuring this or is it all just a "guess on the high side to make it sell better?"

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    I guess you estimate remaining lacquer in the same way you would the amount of gray hair on your head.
    At 27 I had 97% of my original brunette hair.
    At nearly 57 I am close to 85% gray.
    Yup, my head is a relacquer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranechaser View Post
    Is there actually a proper method for measuring this or is it all just a "guess on the high side to make it sell better?"
    Does an accurate method exist? Sure. Does anyone use it? I havenít seen it implemented yet.

    There exist image analysis methods that would give numbers based on ratio of pixel counts. Does it really matter that much?
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    Default Re: How do you calculate "percent original lacquer?"

    the same way how people calculate which percentage of the sound is due to the mouthpiece or the saxophone or the player.

    They donít.

    In the olden days there were people, mostly in the countryside, whose occupation was producing estimations of the weight of fruit carried by a tree or the weight of corn produced in a field ( the husband of my father's wet nurse was such a person) or the weight of an animal.

    This was an useful ability and if you think of it it is one that to a certain extend we all possess. In the animal world all animals (even without a mirror to know how they themselves look) can easily size up an opponent in a conflict and generally, walk away when the opponent is larger.
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    I laque the ability to judge the percentage.
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    Default Re: How do you calculate "percent original lacquer?"

    I lacquer that answer the best so far.

    But I shellac the better answer if I ever hear one.

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    56.257% of statistics are made up on the spot..........
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    6 out of 5 people can't do math.
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    Most prospective sellers err on the side of prophet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandmommy View Post
    I guess you estimate remaining lacquer in the same way you would the amount of gray hair on your head.
    At 27 I had 97% of my original brunette hair.
    At nearly 57 I am close to 85% gray.
    Yup, my head is a relacquer.
    So...mine has obviously been stripped....

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    Default Re: How do you calculate "percent original lacquer?"

    I think the preferred method is "Optimistically".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fader View Post
    I think the preferred method is "Optimistically".

    Yep. Moves to the front of favorite answer so far.

    Short and to the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by click View Post
    Yep. Moves to the front of favorite answer so far.

    Short and to the point.
    Thanks....although "Blindly" has a certain appeal as well.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fader View Post
    So...mine has obviously been stripped....
    Bare brass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandmommy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by DD View Post
    Most prospective sellers err on the side of prophet.
    Do you mean profit?

    It's just a relative ingredient in the overall formula. You eyeball it and guess how much of the horn has original lacquer on it. It's not a big deal.
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    Default Re: How do you calculate "percent original lacquer?"

    I try to be accurate when Iím selling a horn but, of course, it is just guesswork. I like to mention how the sax looks to an audience as most of the lacquer wear will often be on the backside of the horn or where it touches your hands or body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedtelle1 View Post
    I laque the ability to judge the percentage.

    ....It is unclear whether that's Original.
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    Everybody just chill out and relaques
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