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    Hello. I'm 17, play tenor sax, junior in high school. Let me inform you my story so far so you guys can understand why I'm writing this post. I started playing sax in middle school as a pretty average band student. Come 8th grade, I joined my friends band playing bass, and was introduced to the world of music, particularly rock. I was focused on this very heavily until freshman year, when I began taking sax lessons, and was introduced to jazz. I have an obsessive personality when it comes to things that interest me, and jazz had been my greatest obsession thus far. I practiced my *** off, approaching the music from every direction I could, with this insatiable curiosity that kept up relentlessly for a good while. I listened to jazz 24/7. I read jazz advice articles during class. Everything was a journey, with new twists and turns at every corner of my development. I improved by leaps and bounds that year, and while I wasn't good, I made ridiculous progress. In that time, I felt, for a good while, that I could be the best player in the world if I just continued applying this obsession of mine. I didn't have to work hard one BIT. The motivation just came from inside of me, I was always willing to practice. Then, as with most of my other interests of mine, one day it just QUIT. I came to the realization one day that my interest was kind of just... falling out. I wasn't as into it as I had been the rest of the year. I panicked. I didn't know what to do. This was around the end of freshman year. I kind of juggled back and forth with this for a while, and since then, I've been juggling this terrible feeling. This feeling that I have to create all my will to practice. This feeling of anxiety every time I pick up the horn. I've almost lost my drive entirely and instead of thinking about jazz as this amazing thing to go work on and foster and get better at, I'll sit down to practice and become overwhelmed, trying to figure out how to make the most out of the 1-2 hour timespan I have to practice. It's like I lost all the analytical skills I had as a freshman. It's like I forgot how to practice almost entirely and just end up hacking for an hour or so because I'm not sure what to do. Long tones? Scales? Dynamics? Practicing ideas in all 12 keys? Applying my own theory and creating my own ideas? The list goes on. I'm just in this constant state of questioning - do I love what I'm doing? Will I ever get better at what I'm doing? I'm in a group chat full of fantastic saxophonists my age or older, all of which are better than me. They're constantly working, traveling out of state to go do gigs, making connections and whatnot like true working musicians. I have no idea where to start with "making connections", have never played a paying jazz gig before, and sound like shit compared to them. I want to go into music as a career, as it's one of the only things I'm really "good" at and enjoy doing, but I'm now questioning whether I'll be able to do that at all, if I can figure out how to prepare, how to make myself a better musician in the little time I have left in this town. I haven't made serious progress in over a year, and seemed to have forgotten to. The worst part about it all is I can't just get up and "grind" tomorrow when I have no idea what the hell I should even be WORKING ON. I just wanna feel like I did my freshman year - completely immersed in the music, obsessed with it, in love with jazz, not just the idea of it, knowing what to practice and when to practice it and how to practice it, a good but healthy amount of self deprecation but a strong sense of self confidence that I can improve. I just wanna love what I do again without feeling anxious and worried every time I think about it and how I can get good at it. I'm at my breaking point with this utter confusion, and am seeking to YOU guys as one of my last resorts.

    If anyone can at all help me, it would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucaMorpurgoSax View Post
    . . . I have an obsessive personality when it comes to things that interest me, and jazz had been my greatest obsession thus far.
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    Then, as with most of my other interests of mine, one day it just QUIT. I came to the realization one day that my interest was kind of just... falling out.
    This is not really about jazz, or music. This is about learning to manage your life and your interests so you can maintain a long-term program of discovery and improvement in some field based on a healthy combination of enthusiasm, which will naturally wax and wane over time, and discipline. The latter is essential, but it is a steady virtue, not a manic one. I suggest some life coaching/counseling to learn to cope better with the obsessive surges that you experience. You can't build a career on that. You need to find balance.

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    Find a professional / councillor to talk with. Someone who can ask the right questions, take a history etc. You might benefit from anything from coaching too lithium. But no one on a bulletin board can determine that.

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    You say you want to go into music as a career, then I would focus less on jazz and more on other genres: pop, rock, blues etc. Also the ability to sight read and double on other woodwinds.

    Making a career in jazz is unlikely for the vast majority of people.

    I may have been where you are at one stage, and the lightbulb moment for me was not so much turning my back on jazz, but realising the value of other forms of music. And I have been a professional performer and composer ever since.
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    [QUOTE=LostConn;3400826] "This is not really about jazz, or music."

    HABITS & APPETITES: Life is basically controlled by these two factors

    APPETITES: are our moods, desires & emotions. when they are running hot & high, life & our current pursuit can be great fun... however, Appetites run hot & cold. They are like ridding an emotional yo-yo. Sometimes up, sometimes down... They have to be surrounded by a support system of HABITS: Habits are the mechanism we build around our appetites in order to make them become possible & thrive.

    Anther way to look at it is HEART & MIND: When MY HEART IS "INTO IT" the thrill & desire to play is present...wonderful... when the thrill & desire is not there, then My Mind has to take over the drivers seat: "Here's your schedule & routine. Hey self!, you know if you skip this you will regret it & pay a price,,, keep a written log of sessions & goals etc".... I promise you, the desire will return.

    I'm booked for over 170 gigs for 2018. Some of these nights will be great venues & great fun.. many of them will be the equivalent of going to work & doing my job, but this is the life of a professional. Build the system! Recognize what is currently driving you!


    Finally, get a good teacher who can monitor your progress & moods, and keep moving you to the next level

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    It's perfectly normal to have setbacks and periods when one doesn't make progress.
    What sets the good players apart from the mediocre ones is that they keep going even when they are not motivated.

    You should talk to your teacher about a practice routine. If you don't have a teacher, then you need to get one.

    Charlie Parker once got thrown off the stage by the other band members at your age because he wasn't good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigeld View Post
    It's perfectly normal to have setbacks and periods when one doesn't make progress.
    What sets the good players apart from the mediocre ones is that they keep going even when they are not motivated.

    You should talk to your teacher about a practice routine. If you don't have a teacher, then you need to get one.

    Charlie Parker once got thrown off the stage by the other band members at your age because he wasn't good enough.
    I agree. The thing I learned about my journey in music is the importance of a good teacher in the early stages of your career. A lot of this is actually not about the technical parts of playing your horn, but more about a lot of the other things you have talked about.

    Also I want to say, if you want to make a career out of music, don't worry about people out there being better than you. There are plenty of pros that have people better than them out there. There is a lot more about making a career in music than just being good. Being adaptable, dependable, and amiable will get you further than pure talent alone. Now granted, you do have to be able to play but there are a number of band leaders that would rather take someone who has those traits but is a bit lesser of a player, than the best player out there who is a big jerk that shows up late to call times.

    I also agree with Pete. Expand your horizons in music. There's a lot of music out there outside of jazz. I'd venture to say most professional players, even if they originated in jazz, make their living outside of it. Outside of playing standards for corporate and wedding gigs, there isn't a whole ton of pay for jazz out there unless your one of the top jazz players out there.
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    I do not wish to judge you, as everyone is different in the path of each life.

    But if this were me and my story and I was looking at this I would say to myself.

    Click, you are 60 years old now. At the time of this story, you were just getting your adult feet under you.

    Give yourself a break. It is going to be OK.

    It does not matter. Follow your passion. If music is not going to do that, try something else.

    Maybe music will do that, but you overdid it for a while and need a little slack time.

    Give that to yourself and relax.

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    Just as a side note...and no offense intended but break your posts into actual paragraphs and edit.

    This is exceedingly difficult to read. Its like a guy playing way too many notes.

    Perhaps your post is a metaphor for your life....slow down. Break things into pieces you can manage. Exercise some control through deliberate choices.

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    Consistency over time is what produces results. I recommend Neff Music for stuff to work on and very economical. Surely the teacher you mention can tell if you are getting better and if your expectations are reasonable. Music is a lifetime journey. I'm never going to be a good jazz player. I know what it would take to do it. I don't have the time or years left to get there. However I can play pretty good rock sax and I have embraced that. I get to do it in a band and make a few bucks doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Thomas View Post
    You say you want to go into music as a career, then I would focus less on jazz and more on other genres: pop, rock, blues etc. Also the ability to sight read and double on other woodwinds.

    Making a career in jazz is unlikely for the vast majority of people.
    Your lack of motivation, is due to a lack of recognition. Nobody cares about jazz anymore, especially not your peer group. Its awesome, and still intellectually superior, but its the new classical music. Which is great, for those who can outplay the other 99.99%, and don't mind playing to a few dozen blue hairs twice a year. An exaggeration, but truly, its a huge commitment, with no return in terms of money or love. Keep pursuing it, but don't make it the main thing.

    You need to do as Pete says, and find a venue, an outlet, a group that wants to hear music made on horns, including sax. Any community bands in your area? Learn another instrument, so you can fill multiple parts. Also, if you've studied jazz for this length of time, you must be competent, and able to sit in a cover band or small non-jazz unit. Any open mics in your area? A sax can add hugely with just a couple lines between two verses of a cover tune, or even an original. Open mics are usually very welcoming to new folks, and provide an act for you to jump in on the fly. Its not much, and probably not needed on every tune, but if you learn another instrument, you may swing a position in an originals band or cover band. Another opportunity are party/wedding bands. Maybe contact a few and tryout? In the meantime, work on more types of music, especially rock, blues, and pop.

    You've got the desire and will, just need to find the confirmation and inspiration that you *thought* would come from playing jazz.
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    Music is like a relationship. It can start out so romantic and lust-driven- can't get enough. Then the reality of commitment comes into the equation, then marriage where you have to do very un-fun things like take out the trash. But the love of the art can literally sustain you through the greatest storms of life. It sounds like you're a member of our "love of music, somewhat by way of saxophone" cult- you'll probably never escape! It's kind of like a black hole.

    Due to military moves, I've had to see what the music scenes were like in different towns, and there's ALWAYS a music community- it's like you always have a family (be it sometimes quite dysfunctional!)

    I agree with the suggestions to talk to both a good counselor and to get a good saxophone teacher. Loss of interest in activities and anxiety can be indicative of needing some assistance to help regulate your emotions so you can work things out. It's completely normal as an adolescent to have interests in different things at different times, although there could be other factors.

    As far as your playing, I think many of us can identify that the material we think we should cover seems completely overwhelming. People your age have such a wealth of information that you could be working on. Those of us who are older remember the days where you couldn't find certain records to listen to, and didn't have all the Youtube resources and all other kinds of stuff online. We HAD to work slower just because there was much less information immediately available. No matter what you're practicing, the fact that you're PLAYING regularly is the most important thing. George Garzone told me once that you almost always have time to play a few scales.

    If you studied any other discipline, it would take YEARS, right? And you would do it systematically, and then put those skills to practice after you finished any formal training/education. If you wanted to be a brain surgeon, for example, you would have 4-5 years of pre-med, then medical school for several years, then training to be a specialist- more than a decade for all of that- then years of doing it to become accomplished/board certified, etc.

    Most people are, at times, just going through the motions to attain the bigger goal of becoming accomplished at something. The younger you are, the more connections can be made in the brain. This is why the average 5 y.o. can learn violin faster than an adult! Plus, the more advanced you are, it gets harder to see improvement in many ways. It's like going on a diet- those last 10 lb. are a bitch!

    The last thing you should do is compare yourself to others. It's a huge blessing to have people around you who play "better" than you anyway because you can learn so much from these interactions. The older I get, since life is short-the more I try to limit things I do to those that make me say "hell yeah!" I want to do that! Surprisingly, with my playing that has taken weird turns- like right now I'm digging practicing classical saxophone- thought I would NEVER want to do that. But for me, right now, it's making me enjoy getting my horn out. Different musical endeavors all connect- I like composing, playing jazz, funk, rock, desktop recording- you should explore all your music interests you have and take musical risks.

    I'm not the best player in the world for sure, but I do having something to say, and it sounds like you do, too. So focus on that- being able to express yourself to the best of your ability, and be kind to yourself and very patient.
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    I don't know if I can help you, but I can tell you this: everything you're experiencing is perfectly normal. We all go through periods of feeling inspired and focused and energetic, and also periods where we have struggle and doubt. This is true not only of musicians, but of people in general, especially younger people. The ups and downs that are an inevitable part of life tend to seem more extreme when you're young, probably because you don't a lot of experiences to compare them to. Or, to put it more optimistically, as life goes on, you gain perspective that makes it easier to make sense out of the good and the bad. One thing you learn is that persistence usually pays off.

    So I suppose what I'm saying is: this doesn't sound to me like a crisis, even though you may be feeling that way. It sounds like the downside of a cycle that most musicians I know go through. Every now and again, we all have these periods where we feel less inspired. For me at least, what always happens is that inspiration returns: I see a great performance that makes me want to hit the practice extra hard, or I get an opportunity to play in a situation that really excites me, or I learn about some new idea that I just have to master. I think it's a natural thing: we grow in spurts, and sometimes we have periods when we're kind of resting and regrouping. It's not the end of the world. (Unless you decide you want it to be.) The most important thing, I believe, is that you keep on. Just keep practicing, even if you're not having super productive sessions. Try some new things, do some listening, let yourself have some fun improvising. Try not to worry. Inspiration will return. Oh, and don't be afraid to share your feelings. Not just online, but with family and friends.

    Like I said above, persistence is really important. At the end of the day, it might be more important than talent. Anything you want to do--not just music, but anything you want to study and any field you want to go into--is going to require you to be able to keep going when the going gets tough. Hang in there, bro. We're all on a journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmund451 View Post
    Just as a side note...and no offense intended but break your posts into actual paragraphs and edit.

    This is exceedingly difficult to read. Its like a guy playing way too many notes.

    Perhaps your post is a metaphor for your life....slow down. Break things into pieces you can manage. Exercise some control through deliberate choices.

    The medium is often the message. take a deep breath.
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    This is not really about jazz, or music. This is about learning to manage your life and your interests so you can maintain a long-term program of discovery and improvement in some field based on a healthy combination of enthusiasm, which will naturally wax and wane over time, and discipline. I suggest some life coaching/counseling to learn to cope better with the obsessive surges that you experience. You can't build a career on that. You need to find balance.
    Good advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by saxcop View Post
    Consistency over time is what produces results. I recommend Neff Music for stuff to work on and very economical. Surely the teacher you mention can tell if you are getting better and if your expectations are reasonable.
    In this instance I would not suggest suggesting to the OP additional study materials or sources, as this isn't the crux of the problem.

    The second point is DEAD ON.

    Per Phil's comment...I apologize...but in that essay you wrote, I am still unclear as to whether you (OP) currently take regular private lessons, once a week, with a sax teacher (?) If you do....better to talk to him/her about this...as opposed to a musician chat board.

    If you do not...then go find a teacher. And put yourself in his/her hands and trust them to develop a focused gameplan for you.

    This is ONE of the TWO things you need to do. The second has been touched upon by other already.

    Your post suggests you actually would benefit greatly from counseling/therapy. I am not saying this to be mean-spirited. I am saying this to offer my advice. You seem like a stressed and somewhat unhappy individual.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roundmidnite View Post
    I agree with the suggestions to talk to both a good counselor and to get a good saxophone teacher. Loss of interest in activities and anxiety can be indicative of needing some assistance to help regulate your emotions so you can work things out. It's completely normal as an adolescent to have interests in different things at different times, although there could be other factors.
    Word.

    1) Find a counselor/therapist.

    2) Find a sax teacher.

    Best of luck to you. All of this IS manageable....however, oftentimes we humans NEED more than to just rely on our own WILL to guide us to a better, healthier place.

    Identifying the dynamic within ourselves is important, but does not solve it.

    Without professional guidance, willing oneself to act differently is almost never ultimately successful....although the goal of acting/thinking/living differently is usually quite attainable.
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    If you make the same impression in person as your writing, I think youíve answered your own question.
    A lot of people get hired on their personality as well as their playing. You canít play outside of who you are.
    Itís quite possible that their first impression makes someone not hire you, but it could be, as you said, all your friends play better than you.
    I would take that as a personal challenge, not something to whine about.

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    If I could quote all the above posters in a coherent way, I'd do so and say +1 to all the great advice. Pay close attention to all of them. Roundmidnight said about everything I wanted to say after reading your OP, so I won't repeat all of what she said. It was right on the money.

    Here's what I will say. You're 17 years old. When I was 17 I was lucky enough to start hearing lots of great jazz musicians (mostly gone now) live and in person, as well as the rock bands, and especially BLUES bands of the day. I was only starting out on the sax and hearing all that music is what inspired and drove me on. But it was hit and miss; I didn't work at it as hard as I should have at the time, I had other interests, stayed in school, got a real job as geologist, taught kayaking, and pursued many interests.

    All along the way, the music was there. I kept listening to jazz & blues and I kept plugging away at the sax, mainly because I was driven to do it. Eventually I started playing gigs, much later in life than where you are now, and have had my own band for the past dozen years or so. Music has never been a real 'career' for me, but it's been a great joy all along (maybe because it wasn't a career!). I'm close to 50 years older than you, but I remember when I was 17 like it was yesterday. Good times.

    I wrote all that not as any sort of guide for you; I made plenty of mistakes along the way. But rather to point out the fact you are just getting started and have plenty of time! It sounds like you aren't one to waste time, and that's a good thing. And being obsessed helps as long as you don't let it mess you up by getting upset when you seem to lose interest or get frustrated. Music can do that to you. This is easier to say than do, but try to relax and enjoy the journey. You have a long way to go.

    And oh yeah. Learn to use paragraphs. You're actually a good writer. Your sentences are well-constructed and coherent. All you need is to break it up with paragraphs. Learn how to use a 'topic sentence' (look it up). I realize you could do without the writing advice, but I couldn't resist.

    Keep at the music. You won't regret it.

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    To Luca the OP: do you have any reactions to these replies? Any thoughts? I'd like to know what you make of what's been said to you.

    It's not clear from your thread starter if you are currently working with a teacher. If so, talk to him/her about your concerns. A teacher can structure your practice and what you work on to keep making progress. If you don't currently have a teacher, get one. And if you don't have a teacher and don't get one, your problems are your own fault. And the fault of being 17.

    Sorry if I'm too blunt, but I want you to take in what I'm saying and not let it get blurred by lots of words.

    Also, play sax with other people. Your friends, anybody you can find, even if they're not very good. Playing with other people is a great motivator and a true test of your real abilities. You may be kidding yourself about how good you are, or you may really be very advanced for your age and experience. A teacher and playing with others can help you have a realistic understanding of where you are in your development and where you need to go.
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    I hate to have to ask an indelicate question, but this sounds very familiar... have you been smoking cannabis?
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    Tons of good stuff here in this thread...it seems like a topic that causes a lot us to draw from our own lives...I know Iíve been as passionate as you seem to be / have been about sax before...what an awesome feeling! Be thankful. To live, breath, and barely be able to sleep because something is so good is not something everyone seems to have experienced. (Keep hanging with musicians- I think they can relate to that better than most people)

    Thankfully you are young. You can do the same thing with tons of other things.

    Iíve had equally passionate spells with guitar, piano, cooking, several businesses, whitewater, two very lovely women, reading, cocaine, scuba diving, skiing, sailing, percussion, recording, and a few other really interesting things....

    This is healthy if you can keep out of jail and mental institutions.


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    Default Re: I desperately need help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fader View Post
    Note: Believe less than half of what therapists might tell you. It turns out they have problems of their own - and if they cure you, what happens to their income? Just sayin
    As an aside:

    Good therapists/counselors don't 'tell you' to do things.

    They listen, interject, point out options, provide tools to help us navigate, and guide us to achieve some clarity; and hopefully peace.
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