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    I have recently (as in on December 6th) had unexpected shoulder reconstruction surgery and, once I get out of this damned immobilizer, have to become an alto player pretty much exclusively for the foreseeable future. With that said, I am looking for a good clone/analog for my Meyer bros NY 5m that I wont be so nervous playing out on.

    I naturally play on the bright side, and found the vintage bros NY to compliment my tendencies on my Conn 6m viii. There are a TON of places claiming that they have copied the piece, but I'm always quite skeptical of claims. Nevermind that I haven't really been much of an alto player for a loooooooong time...

    What does your experience say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EsbSpecial View Post
    What does your experience say?

    Cheers.
    I have had very good experience with Ed Pillinger regarding having pieces cloned. It is never a real clone due to the material, however Ed has the experinece to use materials with the exact same playing properties if not the exact same look. But then, all I care about are the playing properties.

    The great thing about a clone (apart from having a backup) is that you can then experiment with different facings without destroying the original
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    I recently got a Retro Revival "New Yorker" which I like a lot. It gets that great "Meyer" sound and tunes well with my Bueschers. To be clear, however, I have never played a Meyer Bros NY alto mouthpiece, so I can't make a comparison. For several years my primary alto mouthpiece was a NYUSA, however, and the RR compares favorably.
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    Default Re: Meyer Bros NY clones

    Just get a new 5M or 6S. They aren’t really any different now.

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    I am tempted to give Ron Coelho a call...but that would mean I'm playing an RPC on each horn...heh
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    I’ve been very happy with the Aizen NY model. (not the jazzmaster). I like it so much I bought two. The macsax Bob Shepherd is excellent mouthpiece and you might want to also check out the mouthpiece café.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EsbSpecial View Post
    I am tempted to give Ron Coelho a call...but that would mean I'm playing an RPC on each horn...heh
    Nothing wrong with that. Ron’s been doing great work for a long while.

    FWIW, I’m really diggin’ a Phil-Tone Intrepid .082 on my Borgani alto, a horn that shares a lot more Conn than Selmer character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EsbSpecial View Post
    I am tempted to give Ron Coelho a call...but that would mean I'm playing an RPC on each horn...heh
    I played a Meyer NYUSA on alto for a time until moving on to an SR Tech Legend (85). Still wanting something more open, I went to an RPC rollover (90) and that's been working for me for over at least a dozen years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EsbSpecial View Post
    I have recently (as in on December 6th) had unexpected shoulder reconstruction surgery and, once I get out of this damned immobilizer, have to become an alto player pretty much exclusively for the foreseeable future. With that said, I am looking for a good clone/analog for my Meyer bros NY 5m that I wont be so nervous playing out on.

    I naturally play on the bright side, and found the vintage bros NY to compliment my tendencies on my Conn 6m viii. There are a TON of places claiming that they have copied the piece, but I'm always quite skeptical of claims. Nevermind that I haven't really been much of an alto player for a loooooooong time...

    What does your experience say?

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    Mouthpiece cafe NYC, ishimori woodstone traditional alto and Navarro Maestra medium chamber. Maybe there are some more but this is the only thing I have tried for alto in the NY meyer area. I have a TK acoustimax but that's not a meyer copy.
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    I've been playing a NY Meyer for 50 yrs....the closest I've tried were the Drake ceraminc, the Pillinger NYA and Philtone....might be selling the Pillinger if you're interested....
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    I had a NY Meyer alto 5 (rounded wall version)...I haven't tried them all, but I thought the B&N Norberto Lost Wax version was the closest. Once I got that piece, it was safe to sell the NY Meyer for big bucks.
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    The Vandoren S+ Chamber pieces are a great bargain! It’s very close to a ny Meyer sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfrank View Post
    I have a TK acoustimax but that's not a meyer copy.
    No, it is not; but it's all kinds of awesome. I have two of them.
    A little bit louder and a little bit worse.

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    I had a phil barone ny 6 meyer copy played we'l till the rallss got damaged

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    EsbSpecial, I have heard some guys, one in particular that uses an RPC rollover and achieves a GREAT Meyer New York Sound ... I am a great fan of Ron's work, played his high baffles for years ...however, when it came time for me to start settling in on an all "round" sound ... typical NY Meyer ... I spoke with Aaron Drake regarding his New York Jazz model ....I now use them on my alto and tenor

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    Phil Tone Meyer 6m in my experience seems to be the closest for my playing style, everyone will have a different answer though.

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    Experience wise? A Morgan Jazz 5ML. Same rubber formula, same process, very similar internal dimensions, hand-faced, medium chamber, roll-over baffle style.

    They're always great. It's not marketed as a "clone" but for me it comes closer to the real thing than all these copy pieces everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkerfan View Post
    I had a phil barone ny 6 meyer copy played we'l till the rallss got damaged
    These are really great pieces that can be found very cheap on the second hand market.

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