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    hello i search a solution for my selmer 9
    with the mpc i like ( krass j 57 ) i need a really short barrel perhaps 58mm 61mm is too long
    have you a solution with a brand or a maker who can help me?
    thanks a lot !

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    Default Re: barrel for selmer 9

    Are you able to play that mouthpiece in tune on other clarinets with normal barrel lengths? I've never heard of a 58mm clarinet barrel and I suspect that a barrel that length will tune pretty badly. Some quick googling seems to indicate these horns came with a 66mm barrel and by the time we've gone to 58, it seems like that would start to make the scale weird, bringing the throat tones and left hand notes way, way up and having a much smaller effect on the right hand notes. I know that when I used to play really sharp, I would need to pull out the barrel a couple of mm and then the middle joint a mm or two to keep the left hand from being affected too strongly, which would start to happen after pulling the barrel out about 3mm. I can only imagine that changing the barrel length by 8mm (over 12%) from the original length would have a similar effect in the other direction.

    Also, that Krass mouthpiece is probably very good, but it's very extreme, with a 1.60mm tip opening. I have a Vandoren 5JB that I rarely play anymore, which is almost as open, at 1.47mm. When I bought it, I thought it would be loud and screaming, since it was .50 mm larger than my normal mouthpiece, a Fobes CF (0.97mm tip opening). It's not. Clarinet mouthpieces don't seem to do that like sax mouthpieces. I'm just as loud on the Fobes and it's much more controllable and, most importantly, is exactly in tune. If you're playing that mouthpiece and are playing crazy flat like it sounds like you are, I'm going to guess that the barrel is not the problem.

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    Default Re: barrel for selmer 9

    58mm would be VERY short for a Series 9. Not doubting that with your current mouthpiece you need something short(er), but that's pretty extreme. For what it's worth, the barrel with my T series 9 (1964) is 66mm. My barrel also has a "9" stamped below the Selmer logo. I've heard that 9's came with barrels having that marking. Not sure why exactly. Since the Series 9 (NOT 9*) was the last of the Selmer "large bore" clarinets, I'd assume a barrel from any Selmer clarinet (K-R series) would work fine.
    I realize that doesn't help you out much, but hope the info does!

    John

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    Default Re: barrel for selmer 9

    Several years ago, I needed a short barrel for my Buffet RC Prestige Bb soprano clarinet. I had a clarinet repair specialist make a barrel for me, based on, as I recall, a "Sierra" blank. It came out to 55mm, if memory serves me correctly. It matched, in length, another Buffet barrel that was given to me years before but was too loose to fit my mouthpieces or the upper joint of my clarinet. That solved MY pitch problems - and it did not alter the horn's intonation.

    I also have a newish Yamaha Oelhler clarinet. It has a short barrel that is close in length to the one I had made for me. I THINK Oehler and Albert System barrels are shorter than Boehms. I have not tried it on my Boehm clarinet (fit problems - and I'm not interested in making alterations to accommodate the Oehler barrel).

    SO, you could have a short barrel made for you, try to make an Oehler barrel fit your clarinet, or buy another barrel for your clarinet and have someone shorten it. Of course, matching bore dimensions may be an issue if you try to aer an Oehler barel. You'll have to work through that.

    By the way, when I switched to a Lakey clarinet mouthpiece, I went back to the stock Buffet barrel. The Lakeys I have (and bought directly from Claude himself) are shorter than most clarinet mouthpieces. That, plus a more developed clarinet embouchure allows me to come to pitch. DAVE
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    Default Re: barrel for selmer 9

    yes thank you for the advice
    i tried the mpc on a serie 10s selmer and it s the same problem
    i played with lakey before and love it but i broke it and the other i have certainly need o good reface
    i play a 5jb too but it need a lot of work and don't give me all the things i like with lakey
    the krass is very good certainly less bright than lakey but very very flexible and great low ends
    with lakey i use the standart barrel but the intonation with lakey is a lot of work
    with 5jb i need 61 mm barrel i can play it with a longer barrel but i need to put a lot of pression on the mpc with my lower jaw
    and the krass need a shorter barrel
    ceratinly my clarinet sound isn't good for a lot of situation but i like to play with a embouchure very relaxed ( when i can lol) in fact i play it like a sax ( but as a child i pravcticed the clarinet first)
    anyway i don't know this day i need to play like this and with a c185 120 selmer i min tune with the stock barrel but clearly for me there is a lack of an all world of sound i couln't reach with it or with a lot of effort and it isn't as effective as a lakey or krass or 5jb
    clearly it need a lot of work on intonation but slowly it is better
    yes the the intonation of the left hand lowregister tend to be high but not the left hand high register
    i read somewhere that tony scott played with very short barrel (perhaps i am on his road... lol clearly i'm way way way under this man lol)
    do you know this man ? it was a wonderful player

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    Default Re: barrel for selmer 9

    if some body as a good lakey mpc to sell i'm very interested to have one in good shape
    thank you !

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