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    Rahsaan Roland Kirk.

    Solo begins at 2:16.

    What rig could one use today to approach that (yes, yes, I know how much of it's dependent on the player, but still there's some effect)?

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2_M0V0rzEY

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    Default Re: The Perfect Soprano Sound

    Ah shoot, just realized - was that the straight alto, not the saxello?

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    Default Re: The Perfect Soprano Sound

    Plus, the 'perfect sound' on any instrument is the one in your head. You might get a majority of players on that instrument to agree on that but its still completely subjective.

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    Yeah, I guess "in my opinion" was implicit in the title. Anyway, it's kind of a moot point if it turns out he played it on alto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turf3 View Post
    Anyway, it's kind of a moot point if it turns out he played it on alto.
    Or maybe you have discovered a profound truth: that the perfect soprano sound is an alto. No wonder the sop mouthpiece hunt can be so tricky!

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    That is a soprano, not alto. While you will never get an agreement as to what "perfect" is, I personally do like the playing on that cut.
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    yes, great playing and I like the tone as well

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    If there's a better soprano sound than that I haven't heard it. Kirk was a wonder!

    He played a highly modified saxello usually, and I've heard bergs but don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostConn View Post
    Or maybe you have discovered a profound truth: that the perfect soprano sound is an alto. No wonder the sop mouthpiece hunt can be so tricky!
    I agree with this. My ideal soprano sound is one that sounds just like an alto, but plays higher notes. Too many soprano saxophonists sound like oboes. A saxophone should sound like a saxophone!

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    I am not sure what I was doing in a physical sense, as I never thought much about it. But I found my sound would be quite different on Sop depending on the music. For ex. Schubert Ave Maria or something like The Peacocks.

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    I really like Branford Marsalis' tone and ideas.

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    I agree, Branford Marsarlis' sound is lovely. His playing on the soundtrack of the movie Sneakers is particularly good. But personally, there is a player from England I believe, named Kyle Horch who is one of my favorites.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl_4z4b99L4

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    Quote Originally Posted by perina14 View Post
    I agree, Branford Marsarlis' sound is lovely. His playing on the soundtrack of the movie Sneakers is particularly good. But personally, there is a player from England I believe, named Kyle Horch who is one of my favorites.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl_4z4b99L4
    Is he purposely damping the sound of his horn by maintaining the bell between his knees?



    At t=2:40, it becomes obvious that he is resting the bell on his knees.
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    This is the cut right here .


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    Quote Originally Posted by cam95 View Post
    I agree with this. My ideal soprano sound is one that sounds just like an alto, but plays higher notes. Too many soprano saxophonists sound like oboes. A saxophone should sound like a saxophone!
    That's like saying "a violin should sound like a 'cello but playing higher notes". I know what you mean, but a sop naturally sounds different, that's just how it is. You may think it should sound like an alto but it just doesn't - it has a different architecture and it's an analogue instrument with a different tone. I personally like to get as "saxy" a sound as I can from my sop and shy away from oboeisms, but when i play a bit of alto I just have to accept that a sop has its own natural and distinctive tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr G View Post
    Is he purposely damping the sound of his horn by maintaining the bell between his knees?



    At t=2:40, it becomes obvious that he is resting the bell on his knees.
    I thought that was curious myself. I assumed he was holding it for support. But the sound is still clear and pure.

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    That's a really personal thing but my ideal soprano tone is closer to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID5ZRP5bNv8
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    That's a really personal thing but my ideal soprano tone is closer to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID5ZRP5bNv8
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    Default Re: The Perfect Soprano Sound

    How about a different approach to soprano tone from Bob Wilber:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00oM7FRGWo



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfmfqnS8ipY


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    Wilber swings his butt of here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJZQh816m_4


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