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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbur Weltklang View Post
    A year later and my patch-free mouthpiece is still showing no teeth marks
    That's a good sign; it means you aren't biting. However, I don't use a patch to prevent tooth marks. I just find it more comfortable, even when just lightly resting my teeth on top of the mpc.

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    I chipped my front tooth on a fork years ago. After that, I dug into every mouthpiece I own way too fast. Patches help that a lot. That forking fork!!

    I just ordered 2 clear packs. $9.95 (reduced from $14.95). I have no issues with the price if I can get a good year of use out of a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    That's a good sign; it means you aren't biting. However, I don't use a patch to prevent tooth marks. I just find it more comfortable, even when just lightly resting my teeth on top of the mpc.
    Yeah of course we all have differing tastes etc.
    Funny thing is that the patch would deform and had a definite groove where my teeth went.
    Perhaps it's having that flexible patch that invokes the biting?

    cheers, Mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertiti View Post
    The email was from Germany so I assumed they use different words that mean different things over there. I can't speak about if the material is harder or not. I use to bite through patches when I was younger but havn't bit through one since I switched to the 3M patches years ago. I haven't put a mark in any of these either but maybe you play with more pressure or your teeth are sharper so I don't know. Steve
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    To my knowledge, the market has seen three types of pad. Silicon, Rubber and Vinyl.

    I was pretty hacked off a year or so ago ...as BG stopped production of its 14L Pad . This was a 0.3.5 mm pad made of black Vinyl with a face up textured finish.

    I have to use other pads now, but None of them are as good as BG's Vinyl pad ...and come to think of it, it was the Only vinyl pad I have ever known of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    That's a good sign; it means you aren't biting. However, I don't use a patch to prevent tooth marks. I just find it more comfortable, even when just lightly resting my teeth on top of the mpc.
    Same here. I have a patch on my JJ DV Chi that I have been playing almost daily (several times a week at least) which I put on the piece when I bought it in 2008. I scrub the piece down with a soft bristled toothbrush about once a week to keep it clean but otherwise nothing special. I suspect the adhesive will eventually let go and I'll need to replace it.

    I'm interested to see how these compare to the BG and Vandoren patches I've used on many of my mouthpieces.

    I bought a set of these;
    https://www.amazon.com/Vizcaya-Clari...9SCSVBHD6M9FFG

    about 6 months ago figuring it was a really good deal at $6 for 16 patches but when I took them out of the packaging they had a very strong chemical smell like paint or formaldehyde or something. (At the time there were no Amazon reviews but since then several others have reported the same thing.) I don't go through these fast or often enough to warrant putting these in my mouth when none of the other name-brand patches I've ever bought smelled like that. They don't smell anymore so I guess they have finished out-gassing but I'm still not sure about using them long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbur Weltklang View Post
    Perhaps it's having that flexible patch that invokes the biting?
    Good point, Mark. A patch could induce more biting, so you still have to beware of doing that. Without a patch, biting is very uncomfortable, but also on a bare mpc my teeth tend to slide around a bit which sort of induces biting. Uncomfortable either way. A patch solves those issues. Then again, way back when I first started playing I didn't know about patches and don't remember it being a problem. However, the first time I used a patch I never looked back.

    I don't like them too thick or cushy, just thick enough for comfort and to prevent any slippage of my teeth. It'll be interesting to see how these Forestone patches work. I like the 3M, so it caught my attention that Steve prefers the Forestone to the 3M. I'll find out (for only $9.95).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    ...my teeth tend to slide around a bit which sort of induces biting. Uncomfortable either way. A patch solves those issues. Then again, way back when I first started playing I didn't know about patches and don't remember it being a problem. However, the first time I used a patch I never looked back.
    Mine too. Especially since I switched to my Warburton which doesn't have a bite plate. Back to the patch.

    The guardala LT I was playing before it I never used a patch and it worked super well. Teeth didn't slide around. But it's coming up on 9 months now since I got the horn and the mouthpiece. Mouthpiece patch does indeed solve the sliding problem.
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    I like the sound of these Forestone patches. Nice review and discussion!

    I started off on the thin, clear Yamaha patches.

    Then tried those patches by SoTW member Face Ache Mike. I'll never wear those out so not sure when I'd get a chance to try these Forestone types. I really like the idea of being so nicely removable though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratracer View Post
    I like the sound of these Forestone patches. Nice review and discussion!

    I started off on the thin, clear Yamaha patches.

    Then tried those patches by SoTW member Face Ache Mike. I'll never wear those out so not sure when I'd get a chance to try these Forestone types. I really like the idea of being so nicely removable though!
    They're good for us guys with mouthpiece GAS...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertiti View Post
    They're good for us guys with mouthpiece GAS...........
    Yeah, that is soooo cool. Kind of the 3M sticky notepads for the saxophone!

    And as far as GAS goes, man, you're in a league all your own!

    It's a dirty job, demoing all those mouthpieces, but somebody has to do it!

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    I got some of these patches and they are really very good. Just the right size and thickness, fairly thin but not quite as thin as the 3M patches, and very comfortable to use. And the adhesive seems to be a real high tech product that works incredibly well. It adheres firmly to the mpc, no slipping and it stays put, yet it can be peeled off (and re-used if you want), leaving no sticky residue. They also seem really sturdy so I suspect they last a long time. A really great product all around.

    Thanks Steve for reviewing these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    I got some of these patches and they are really very good. Just the right size and thickness, fairly thin but not quite as thin as the 3M patches, and very comfortable to use. And the adhesive seems to be a real high tech product that works incredibly well. It adheres firmly to the mpc, no slipping and it stays put, yet it can be peeled off (and re-used if you want), leaving no sticky residue. They also seem really sturdy so I suspect they last a long time. A really great product all around.

    Thanks Steve for reviewing these.
    Awesome! I'm curious what others think that have gotten them. I haven't put a mark in one yet. I have the clear ones also but haven't tried those yet.......

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    Gotta try these. I go through patches because one of my front teeth are slight longer than the other.

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    I just ordered a packet of 6 for $9.95 with free shipping. Can't beat that!!
    It can:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/32-Mouthpiec...19.m1438.l2649

    I use those for years and like them a lot. Probably not as good as the ones Steve reviewed, but I use 3 or 4 a year of them on my main piece and have them on all the other pieces of my big collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpeebee View Post
    It can:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/32-Mouthpiec...19.m1438.l2649

    I use those for years and like them a lot. Probably not as good as the ones Steve reviewed, but I use 3 or 4 a year of them on my main piece and have them on all the other pieces of my big collection.
    Yeah, by 'can't beat that,' I didn't mean just the price. I put the relevant part of your quote in bold. But the Forestone still could be a better value if they last longer, work better (for ex, better feel), and leave no gluey residue on the mpc. I still can't say for sure how long they will last but after several weeks I see no indication of where my teeth rest (unlike the 3M patches which do show slight tooth marks fairly quickly) so they seem pretty durable. And even the 3M patches last at least a couple of years for me, playing daily. So if you're going through 3 or 4 of your patches a year on your main mpc, then I'd say the very low price for them is about right, given you'll need a lot of them.

    The other thing about the Forestone patches (for those who haven't yet read Steve's review) is they can be peeled off and placed on another mpc and you can repeat that process numerous times with the same patch without any gummy residue being left behind, and yet they continue to stick very well without slipping. I don't know what sort of adhesive they use, but it's pretty amazing.

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    I have heard from a few people of these patches not sticking and falling off which bewildered me as that had never happened to me. It did happen the other day when I tried using the patches on a new mouthpiece I got that has a slightly uneven bite plate area and a more radical curve. I tried 3 patches and they all fell off within minutes of using. I think what is happening in this case is that the uneven mouthpiece bite plate area is letting air and saliva get under the patch and it breaks the cohesion. This coupled with the more radical beak curve makes the patch start popping off on the corners and then more air and saliva can get underneath. Either that or perhaps the glue in some batches wasn't applied enough or maybe dries out as it gets old? I bought quite a few of these so am disappointed this is happening. If it happens on other mouthpieces with this new pack of patches I will let you know...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertiti View Post
    I have heard from a few people of these patches not sticking and falling off which bewildered me as that had never happened to me. It did happen the other day when I tried using the patches on a new mouthpiece I got that has a slightly uneven bite plate area and a more radical curve. I tried 3 patches and they all fell off within minutes of using. I think what is happening in this case is that the uneven mouthpiece bite plate area is letting air and saliva get under the patch and it breaks the cohesion. This coupled with the more radical beak curve makes the patch start popping off on the corners and then more air and saliva can get underneath. Either that or perhaps the glue in some batches wasn't applied enough or maybe dries out as it gets old? I bought quite a few of these so am disappointed this is happening. If it happens on other mouthpieces with this new pack of patches I will let you know...........
    i just tried the same patch on another typical hard rubber mouthpiece and it sticks fine. The mouthpiece I tried it on was a Sugal. I think what I stated above is the culprit as I have the same problem with a Barone and it's bite plate. Unless it is something with the material of these bite plates? Strange........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefertiti View Post
    i just tried the same patch on another typical hard rubber mouthpiece and it sticks fine.
    I think they work fine on HR mpcs, but maybe not as well on metal. I have one on a metal Tribute and it works, but I've noticed an edge pealing off slightly a couple of times when I wash the mpc. Not a big problem because it stays in place while playing. Maybe best to use them on HR pieces, though.

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    I don't like them. They keep sliding off. Regardless of metal or plastic mouthpieces. Initially they're fine, but after playing some 30 minutes or so, moisture gets under the patch and it detaches. I like my patches to stick.

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