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    Quote Originally Posted by saxcop View Post
    ... If you want to resell it then you will not win at this price. ....
    Or at any price it seems. The only way to "win" with a B&S saxophone is to buy it and play it, and who wants to do that?
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    I was probably the first person on this forum to really sing the praises of the B&S loudly. I know back when the DG horns were going at very cheap prices, a lot of people bought those and the various other B&S horns under different names mentioned here. The Medusa model was designed using CAD and they used a 5 digit MK VI tenor AND alto to take their design from. Funny thing happened on the alto...the CAD was so exact that the prototype alto ended up having a shallow dent in the bell because the horn they copied had one that no one spotted! Needless to say they re-did it.
    In particular, the tenor is my favorite, however. They really made a great MK VI, but they fixed the intonation quirks and gave it modern keywork.

    I truly believe these horns are highly underrated and indeed, undervalued. But, they are among the finest out there.
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    My primary horn is a B&S Guardala. I believe it is the closest thing to a good MkVI. It plays very similar to my 68 VI.

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    Looks like the B&S 1000 series horns had very different side- and high- F# keys as one obvious difference from the 2000+ series horns:

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxcop View Post
    Guardala is B&S. Mine are made in Germany.

    Regarding the seller of the Accent here. You can't help some people that really don't know what they are talking about and won't take advice. Medusa is not the manufacture. Guardala, Medusa, 2001, Chicago Jazz(if made in Germany), Allora (If made in Germany) all made by B&S. There is no such thing as a Medusa stencil. Its a B&S stencil. I know that you know this Brian. This is not directed at you
    Unfortunately not all Guardala branded horns are B&S made. In the mid 2000s there was also a Guardala line sold through WWBW that were not "Made in Germany" B&S stencils. Rumour had it that these later Guardala horns were sourced from Amati. It is of course pretty easy to tell one from the other.

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    New message: Hi Brian! I completely understand,...

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    Hi Brian!

    I completely understand, but unfortunately I'm not authorized by management to change the listing. Accent sold this to us as an intermediate sax, and so I was instructed to sell it online as it was received by the manufacturer. I will look into changing the listing further, but this is how it will need to remain for the time being. I appreciate your input, and if you or any of your fellow B&S enthusiasts are interested in this Saxophone please let me know!

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    Hello. We spoke last week about this horn.

    After much brisk discussion about this horn on saxontheweb.net amongst the B&S enthusiasts we have come to the conclusion that you are selling yourself and the horn short by listing this as an intermediate level horn.

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    Canadian, Not a rumor...it is true. Those "Guardalas' were kaka.
    Soprano:Viking bent neck 58, Altos: Selmer Reference 54, Cannonball 98, JK SX90 straight, Viking M21 Swing Sonic, [B] Tenors: King Super 20 Silversonic, B&S Sterling Medusa, Ref 54, Buescher 400 TH&C, LeBlanc 120 "Semi-Rational" Bari: JK SX90R satin silver I am not a paid endorser for ANYTHING! However, I do ENDORSE and play VIKING SAXOPHONES!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall View Post
    …Those "Guardalas' were kaka.
    I had the alto (non-B&S) Guardala. It wasn't kaka but it was also nothing more than average. It had Amati parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rackety Sax View Post
    Or at any price it seems. The only way to "win" with a B&S saxophone is to buy it and play it, and who wants to do that?
    I did just this. I bought one to try it and then fell in absolute love with the brand. Discovering this brand was truly a revelation and gives much truth as to what a great horn will do to help ones playing advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soybean View Post
    I had the alto (non-B&S) Guardala. It wasn't kaka but it was also nothing more than average. It had Amati parts.
    I have played a few Amati horns including the JK EX90III and it was simply awful.
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    Very nice clip!! I'm still loving the silver accent/medusa alto I bought last year that I based my thread on from that time. Can't get over how well made this thing is.

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    That was a great price too! I have never seen a silver lacquered one. I know what you mean by the build quality.

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    Very nice clip!! I'm still loving the silver accent/medusa alto I bought last year that I based my thread on from that time. Can't get over how well made this thing is.

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    Don't know if B&S clear lacquered any of their silver plated horns. it would only make sense on a horn styled after a King Super 20 with the brass exposed engraving on silver plate though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianMitchellBrody View Post
    That was a great price too! I have never seen a silver lacquered one. I know what you mean by the build quality.
    "Silver plated" perhaps?

    I don't recall ever seeing silver lacquer, although one might have a horn that is silver plated with a lacquer clear coat over the top.
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    Lambros, they did put clear lacquer over their solid silver horns unless otherwise requested. When I had them make my horn, I told them to NOT put clear lacquer on mine, and they didn't. I can't say with any surity about the plated horns, but logic would dictate that they probably did lacquer them.
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    Thanks Randall that's good information to be aware of. Smart move on your part as well, kudos!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Randall View Post
    Lambros, they did put clear lacquer over their solid silver horns unless otherwise requested. When I had them make my horn, I told them to NOT put clear lacquer on mine, and they didn't. I can't say with any surity about the plated horns, but logic would dictate that they probably did lacquer them.

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    Btw Randall both of my silver plated b&s horns (DG tenor & accent/medusa alto) are not clear lacquered thankfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambros View Post
    Btw Randall both of my silver plated b&s horns (DG tenor & accent/medusa alto) are not clear lacquered thankfully.
    It was hard to tell thanks for the update. I have a gold plated tenor that is not clear lacquered. Its a monster!
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