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    No doubt, Oleg makes nice jewelry, but I can't justify the $$$ he charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kotches View Post
    No doubt, Oleg makes nice jewelry, but I can't justify the $$$ he charges.
    Musicmedic.com came out with some new risers recently but they are a glue-on type (epoxy, actually). They're not cheap either. They look like Mother Of Bowling Ball or MOBB for short. http://musicmedic.com/products/acces...ey-risers.html

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    I was looking at those as well. They run about $63 for a set of 3. They are the next option if I'm not satisfied with these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kotches View Post
    I was looking at those as well. They run about $63 for a set of 3. They are the next option if I'm not satisfied with these.
    My low-budget DIY cork risers are still hanging in there. I covered them with several layers of clear nail polish after shaping/sanding to give them a hard, slick feel. I think about some commercial risers but these work fine for now. I tried some slip-on rubber ones previously. As easily as they slipped on, they slipped off while playing. Straight to the trash with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kotches View Post
    I was looking at those as well. They run about $63 for a set of 3. They are the next option if I'm not satisfied with these.
    The Music Medic website says you have to remove the palm keys in order to install their risers. That's a demerit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacks Of Phones View Post
    My low-budget DIY cork risers are still hanging in there. I covered them with several layers of clear nail polish after shaping/sanding to give them a hard, slick feel. I think about some commercial risers but these work fine for now.
    +1. I've had a do-it-yourself cork riser on on the D palm key of my Buescher for years and it still works great. I didn't put any nail polish on it either, and haven't noticed any problem with the feel (but maybe the nail polish would be a good idea).

    Low budget is right; I got the cork from one of the dozens of wine bottle corks sitting in a drawer in the kitchen and glued it on with contact cement (not epoxy) sitting in a cabinet in the laundry room, and shaped it with a piece of sandpaper from a supply in my garage. Total cost: $0, since I already had all the 'ingredients.'

    Not that I consider spending money on something that makes the horn more comfortable to play. I wouldn't hesitate for a minute to buy a good set of risers, such as the ones in the OP, if I didn't have the 'cork riser solution' already at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadamard View Post
    If you really want to debate it you'd better be prepared: every snake-oil gizmo that add mass is said to improve your tone.
    But in reality, it does change your tone, but makes it worse.

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    If you believe that added mass do affect tone you should reframe as follows:
    "Lightweight plastic risers won't improve your sound like heavy metal risers do"
    No, "Lightweight plastic risers won't ruin your sound like heavy metal risers do"
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kotches View Post
    No doubt, Oleg makes nice jewelry, but I can't justify the $$$ he charges.
    They're expensive indeed but they're probably the closest thing you will get to the original feel of the keys under your fingers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sacks Of Phones View Post
    I tried some slip-on rubber ones previously. As easily as they slipped on, they slipped off while playing. Straight to the trash with them.
    Where they belong.

    Quote Originally Posted by valjeanmeister View Post
    I admire Matt's patience and skill but that's not something I'd make myself.

    Question for Cosmos Ind: why are the risers grooved instead of smooth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejazzvp View Post

    Question for Cosmos Ind: why are the risers grooved instead of smooth?
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    The texture is just for traction and aesthetics. I've had people say they like that. I can make some without if you prefer.

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    Just got them in yesterday, but haven't had a chance to try them until this afternoon. Sadly, I didn't measyre and my calipers say my key width is @ 13.17mm which is .17mm too wide.

    I'll catch up with you in e-mail to discuss.

    Thanks,

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    at .007" over, I'd try them on. If not, I can make you a set that fit.

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    I got my Cosmo risers in a couple of days ago and tried them on a variety of horns I had available:

    Yanigasawa TWO20 YES
    Selmer serie III tenor YES
    Buffet Crampon Super Dynaction tenor: NO
    Martin Committee III 153xxx tenor: YES
    Martin Committee III 315xxx tenor: NO
    Martin The Indiana Alto 61xxx: YES
    Conn C-melody 106xxx: NO

    They were exactly as described, and in use worked perfectly. Nice packaging, each three piece set with its own allen wrench. I used a 3/8" on the D riser and 1/4" on the E and F risers on my Yani. Nice that the risers have a bit of "fore and aft" adjustability as to how they fit on the key as well.

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    Thanks for the excellent feedback! Glad you like them. Seems mixed results on vintage horns. I should update my description to claim "fits on most modern saxes". If I can get enough info, I'll make versions for the vintage ones if possible.

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    Now non-textured ones. Which do you prefer? If you want to order, just specify in the comments you want no texture. I will give them their own page soon. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmos Ind View Post
    Now non-textured ones. Which do you prefer? If you want to order, just specify in the comments you want no texture. I will give them their own page soon. Thanks
    Why not just add them to the Riser Type Drop Down?

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    I can do that.

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    Received my order of a set of 3 small (1/4 ") risers, smooth finish today. I installed one on the D key, and one on the F key of my Mark VI tenor. Installation was quick and simple, and they feel GOOD. I may order them for my Ref. 54 alto, and tenor.

    Great job Cosmos!

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