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    Hey guys, it's the Sax dragon. What do you guys think the best range of Mark VI altos? For me, it's pretty much any of them that don't have the long bow. Specifically, I would say 135xxx-160xxx. Let me know.
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    May i ask what is wrong with a long bow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakkiemetkoekie View Post
    May i ask what is wrong with a long bow?
    Long bows made the horn very out of tune in the middle register when playing a B, C, or D, and for that reason it was not very sought after. Then medium bows were considered the best, because it was in between the short and long, and was considered to have the best intonation, and be the most open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxdragon80 View Post
    Long bows made the horn very out of tune in the middle register when playing a B, C, or D, and for that reason it was not very sought after. Then medium bows were considered the best, because it was in between the short and long, and was considered to have the best intonation, and be the most open.
    That is not what i experience and i play a long bow. My middle register and the other registers are in tune, no problem at all. I am trying some different saxophones lately and there is nothing which i thought that was better, even the newest saxophones like yamaha and the newest buffet and yanagisawa are not better although they claim to be.
    Dont base your opinion on anecdotes from other people. One saxophone is not like the other also not in a certain serial range.

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    I have two Mark VI altos, one from 1960, the other from 1972. The 90xxx from 1960 is a long bow, and the intonation and sound is superb.

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    I don't play the serial number game, usually. I'll just say that I've played a lot of dog VI's and some amazing ones. I do, however, gravitate towards the post 1965 altos. I have a 204xxx that plays better than most of the "legendary" numbered altos I've tried.

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    I have two tenors. One is a 68 and the other a 72. The one that plays best is the one that is in the best regulation and adjustment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakkiemetkoekie View Post
    That is not what i experience and i play a long bow. My middle register and the other registers are in tune, no problem at all. I am trying some different saxophones lately and there is nothing which i thought that was better, even the newest saxophones like yamaha and the newest buffet and yanagisawa are not better although they claim to be.
    Dont base your opinion on anecdotes from other people. One saxophone is not like the other also not in a certain serial range.
    I'm not basing it off of anything other than playing time with many mark VI's.
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    I realize the initial question was about altos (and I have one - #112XXX - and it plays nicely with no issues), but I also have two soprano MKVI's, one from 1959 and one from 1972.

    It seems to me that if there was such a thing as different eras of quality in MKVI's, that all of the saxophones would suffer this disparity. Both of my sopranos are equal players and they are years apart in age. DAVE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxdragon80 View Post
    Then medium bows were considered the best, because it was in between the short and long, and was considered to have the best intonation, and be the most open.
    So you are the one who considered this all? I thought who must that be.

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    I play a long bow from late in the run, great intonation. I hate to say a horn is more suited for a style of play but it suits me well for legit playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakkiemetkoekie View Post
    So you are the one who considered this all? I thought who must that be.
    A lot of other musicians agree with me. Let's not argue about this. Remember, these are opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxdragon80 View Post
    A lot of other musicians agree with me. Let's not argue about this. Remember, these are opinions.
    If everyone is already agreeing with you, then why the thread?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr G View Post
    If everyone is already agreeing with you, then why the thread?




    Affirmation vs information.
    Well ... It does give him a chance to say "hey guys..."

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    The Selmer Mark VI, in particular its tenor manifestation, is a fine saxophone — but there's still a lot of nonsense talked about it, e.g., with regard to which serial number runs are good ones or whether the brass of later ones was inferior to the brass used in earlier ones, or whether the "long bow" was inferior to the "short bow", and so on. Given the exorbitant prices charged (and paid) for these instruments, all this chitchat is hardly surprising, for they sell for about double what they should do, without the hype.

    Anyway, there's one article which should be required reading for this topic. You'll find it on the Saxpics site, under the title,"The Selmer Mark VI."
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    6M or 26M!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr G View Post
    If everyone is already agreeing with you, then why the thread?




    Affirmation vs information.
    When did I say everyone agreed with me? This thread is just me asking which serial range is the best, and immediately I got 5 responses about different lengths of bows, even though I was just expressing my opinion on which was the best. I don't know how it turned into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxdragon80 View Post
    When did I say everyone agreed with me?
    Let's see... This?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxdragon80 View Post
    A lot of other musicians agree with me. Let's not argue about this.
    Then you continue...

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxdragon80 View Post
    When did I say everyone agreed with me? This thread is just me asking which serial range is the best, and immediately I got 5 responses about different lengths of bows, even though I was just expressing my opinion on which was the best. I don't know how it turned into this.
    You got exactly ONE response regarding bow length before you went into this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxdragon80 View Post
    Long bows made the horn very out of tune in the middle register when playing a B, C, or D, and for that reason it was not very sought after. Then medium bows were considered the best, because it was in between the short and long, and was considered to have the best intonation, and be the most open.
    Affirmation vs information. You really don't seem to care what other people think, unless it affirms what you think.

    Have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datsaxman View Post
    Well ... It does give him a chance to say "hey guys..."

    Is it a bad thing that I do that? I don't understand
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