Getz vs Henderson

[BobD]

I think I like Joe Henderson's tone better than Getz. What do you think?


Joe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMLo05EGuBw

Stan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4l1DTgXC1c

[HeyJoe]

Joe has always had the better tone!...Joe's the best!

[mdavej]

One is no better than the other. It's a matter of personal taste. Both are masters and have their own beautiful signature tones, but neither are my taste (I'm talking about tone only). I'd rather have Don Menza's tone (and I do).

[belliott]

Obviously, both were great players. For me, it is Getz.

[booboo5000]

Don't make me choose. They're both great.

[BobD]

Guess I should phrase my question as, which do you like more ? Not which is better.

[almost halfway]

Thanks for posting those. I could never choose, each so different and... compelling. I didn't want to stop listening to either one. That said, I do not find a model for my own tenor sound in these two legends. Dex is it.

[adamk]

Getz for latin, Henderson for swing.
Both are great at anything they play.

[hakukani]

The two videos are incomparable. Stan is playing a medley, is obviously not rehearsed, with some OK players.

The version with Joe is obviously rehearsed, and has the composer (Jobim) playing piano, Pat Metheny on guitar, and Charlie Haden on bass.

Much more salient to compare with this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9iF9R5Ei2I

[ratracer]

The two videos are incomparable. Stan is playing a medley, is obviously not rehearsed, with some OK players.

The version with Joe is obviously rehearsed, and has the composer (Jobim) playing piano, Pat Metheny on guitar, and Charlie Haden on bass.

+1 - this...

[adamk]

He no swing.
At least my friend Ron Powell is playing perc.

The two videos are incomparable. Stan is playing a medley, is obviously not rehearsed, with some OK players.

The version with Joe is obviously rehearsed, and has the composer (Jobim) playing piano, Pat Metheny on guitar, and Charlie Haden on bass.

Much more salient to compare with this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9iF9R5Ei2I

[B Flat]

Zoot!

[MrBlueNote]

Joe when I'm in the mood for Joe and Stan when I'm in the mood for Stan.

[DryMartini]

getz is goat as far as sound in my book

[musefound]

The two videos are incomparable. Stan is playing a medley, is obviously not rehearsed, with some OK players.

The version with Joe is obviously rehearsed, and has the composer (Jobim) playing piano, Pat Metheny on guitar, and Charlie Haden on bass.

Much more salient to compare with this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9iF9R5Ei2I

it's the new year! Why bring this up again? hahahaha

[mrpeebee]

One is no better than the other. It's a matter of personal taste. Both are masters and have their own beautiful signature tones, but neither are my taste (I'm talking about tone only).

+1.

[Rackety Sax]

As far as I'm am concerned, that's not really a good representation of Henderson's sound. Even so it's interesting to hear Getz follow Joe - to me (my opinion only, so no flames please), Getz sounds not so much dark as muffled. I'm not a fan of his tone.

This is a better example of Joe I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkyphSiaXTU

As always, it's really difficult to separate out just the tone from the overall style.

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9iF9R5Ei2I

Stan's hair has grown out nicely in that one.

[Berg-Man]

As far as I'm am concerned, that's not really a good representation of Henderson's sound. Even so it's interesting to hear Getz follow Joe - to me (my opinion only, so no flames please), Getz sounds not so much dark as muffled. I'm not a fan of his tone.

This is a better example of Joe I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkyphSiaXTU

As always, it's really difficult to separate out just the tone from the overall style.



Stan's hair has grown out nicely in that one.

I've always found that what makes Getz's sound so unique is that his subtone has a brightish edge to it and not the dark tubby tone some players get when they subtone.

[whaler]

I've always thought Getz was a big influence on Joe.
Both of them had the best time feels I've ever heard live. They also knew how to shade their sounds more than any other tenor players I've heard. The dramatic changes in volume that they used just aren't heard in many players now.
It just shows you how smaller tip mouthpieces allow you many more different types of articulations and sounds.
Both had that sub tone with an edge in their playing.

[hakukani]

A lot of Joe's sound was proximity to the mic. I heard him live several times, and in master classes without amplification. He played quite soft.