i need quite a lot of 1/6-notes and if there's already something around, I would be very glad to have a look at it (especially for baritone sax).
thanks for any help!
i need quite a lot of 1/6-notes and if there's already something around, I would be very glad to have a look at it (especially for baritone sax).
thanks for any help!
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Edit: after googling the question I realized I have no idea how to achieve what you are asking. I don't play music which requires such notes.
I'd like to help but I have no idea what the question means either.
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Surely you mean 1/16th notes ! As in the sequence 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32…
But a fingering chart… ?
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I read this thread earlier today and had no idea what the OP is asking. I've just visited it again and see I'm not the only one who's baffled.
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Based on some of the OP's previous posts, I think he wants to somehow get 1/6 of a semi tone? Aka microtones? Either way it is outside my scope.
I assumed that Bernesax wants a fingering chart in order to play the pitches when a tone (not semitone) is divided into six equal parts. I did not reply because the only chart I know of is Claude Delangle's quarter tone chart in the Cambridge Companion to the Saxophone.
Microtones in classical music are not so unusual, Alois Hába is probably the most famous composer and microtones are also used extensively by the American composer Kyle Gann. If you go to Gann's website you can hear many examples. Many composers will now introduce microtones into certain sections, sometimes on just one or two instruments.
Also in the first French Connection film I seem to remember the composer Don Ellis used several quarter tone trumpets.
Or he could refer to "sextuplets"...
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This guy should be able to help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGa66qHzKME
1/6 tones are a hack that gets you somewhere near the pitches used in Middle Eastern music. It's almost always going to be better to go directly for the pitch you want rather than detouring through an equal-temperament approximation, though.
The keywork of a sax won't do that for you, you'll need to use embouchure tricks. On the clarinet you achieve it with a wide tip opening and a soft reed.
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This guys got it!
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So... The solution seems to be, you send a mail to Gerschlauer (gerschlauermusic.com) and order a copy of his fingering chart with 650 microtonal fingerings. I'll pass...
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yes, i was looking for the divided tone, of course not for a fingering chart for 1/16 notes...
i finally took the 1/8th-notes fingerings of the netti/weiss book, made some adjustements and checked out the tuning with a tuner and with the embouchure, of course.
microintervals are very common in contemporary music. listen to composers as georg friedrich haas, scelsi, cage, feldman, tenney, ...
Most of the baritone sax players I've played with could do this without any special fingerings : )
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