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    i need quite a lot of 1/6-notes and if there's already something around, I would be very glad to have a look at it (especially for baritone sax).
    thanks for any help!

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Quote Originally Posted by bernesax View Post
    i need quite a lot of 1/6-notes and if there's already something around, I would be very glad to have a look at it (especially for baritone sax).
    thanks for any help!
    Edit: after googling the question I realized I have no idea how to achieve what you are asking. I don't play music which requires such notes.

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    I'd like to help but I have no idea what the question means either.
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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Surely you mean 1/16th notes ! As in the sequence 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32…


    But a fingering chart… ?
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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    I read this thread earlier today and had no idea what the OP is asking. I've just visited it again and see I'm not the only one who's baffled.
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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Based on some of the OP's previous posts, I think he wants to somehow get 1/6 of a semi tone? Aka microtones? Either way it is outside my scope.

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Quote Originally Posted by bernesax View Post
    i need quite a lot of 1/6-notes and if there's already something around, I would be very glad to have a look at it (especially for baritone sax).
    thanks for any help!
    DB?

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    I assumed that Bernesax wants a fingering chart in order to play the pitches when a tone (not semitone) is divided into six equal parts. I did not reply because the only chart I know of is Claude Delangle's quarter tone chart in the Cambridge Companion to the Saxophone.
    Microtones in classical music are not so unusual, Alois Hába is probably the most famous composer and microtones are also used extensively by the American composer Kyle Gann. If you go to Gann's website you can hear many examples. Many composers will now introduce microtones into certain sections, sometimes on just one or two instruments.
    Also in the first French Connection film I seem to remember the composer Don Ellis used several quarter tone trumpets.

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Or he could refer to "sextuplets"...
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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    This guy should be able to help:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGa66qHzKME

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    1/6 tones are a hack that gets you somewhere near the pitches used in Middle Eastern music. It's almost always going to be better to go directly for the pitch you want rather than detouring through an equal-temperament approximation, though.

    The keywork of a sax won't do that for you, you'll need to use embouchure tricks. On the clarinet you achieve it with a wide tip opening and a soft reed.

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_C View Post
    This guy should be able to help:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGa66qHzKME
    At least we got something out of this dumb a** wack thread

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Yup, it's officially hi jacked


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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    So... The solution seems to be, you send a mail to Gerschlauer (gerschlauermusic.com) and order a copy of his fingering chart with 650 microtonal fingerings. I'll pass...
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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    yes, i was looking for the divided tone, of course not for a fingering chart for 1/16 notes...
    i finally took the 1/8th-notes fingerings of the netti/weiss book, made some adjustements and checked out the tuning with a tuner and with the embouchure, of course.
    microintervals are very common in contemporary music. listen to composers as georg friedrich haas, scelsi, cage, feldman, tenney, ...

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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Most of the baritone sax players I've played with could do this without any special fingerings : )
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    I remember being balance engineer for a recording of an aria from John Eaton's quarter tonal opera 'the Cry of Clytemnestra'. Of all the people on the project only Eaton and the singer (which happened to be his wife) could tell if she was not only singing in tune, but singing the right pitch.
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    Default Re: are there any 1/6-notes fingering charts around?

    Quote Originally Posted by captain blowhard View Post
    Most of the baritone sax players I've played with can do this without any special fingerings : )
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    DUDE .. that guy Philipp Gerschlauer is CRAZY cool. I watched most of his videos and they draw you in. Makes sense to me and this is coming from a fairly straight ahead type jazz guy. Anyway ... I am trying to order a copy of his book.

    I sense a new wave of modal jazz coming on
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