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    Default Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    Well, it´s all said in the title.....do you think it or not?

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    No.

    Do I think there are other albums since that are better?

    Yes.

    But you can't deny that it still holds up. That's what makes a piece of art truly great. It holds up over time.
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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    As in "it costs more than it's actually worth?" Or "people think it is more of a masterpiece than it actually is?"

    I dunno, I just really like it


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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    No, and I doubt anyone could compel me to believe that it is.

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    No. Masterpiece.

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    I don´t deny the unquestionable importance of "Kind of blue", but I don´t think that this album deserves the superlative relevance that most of jazz musicians give to it. IMHO.

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    I think Kind of Blue is a wonderful example of an album that's been distilled down to an essence. Each member of the group lends their personality and voice, which are obviously pretty well developed and distinct.

    The other thing that makes Kind of Blue such an important album is that it's pretty accessible to most people, musician or not. The songs are framework for solos that are melodic--music that people can grab on to. If anyone I know expresses an interest in starting to listen to jazz, it's the album that I point them to as a good starting place.
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    Of course it's good like a lot of other stuff. I can see why the thread, because of over the top admiration by some. If you have an emotional attachment to this record OK. But for me it's just one of many. I have an emotional attachment to the song Danny Boy. Don't ask me why, I'm not Irish, although my great Grandad was. LoL. Anyway I don't expect everybody to like Danny Boy.

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    It's currently in my car's player and exactly today I was thinking on how many things there are to listen and to learn in such melodies...

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ballad state of mind View Post
    Of course it's good like a lot of other stuff. I can see why the thread, because of over the top admiration by some. If you have an emotional attachment to this record OK. But for me it's just one of many. I have an emotional attachment to the song Danny Boy. Don't ask me why, I'm not Irish, although my great Grandad was. LoL. Anyway I don't expect everybody to like Danny Boy.
    obviously everyone has their own tastes, preferences, etc. But even if you don't particularly enjoy the music itself, the scope and influence of the album is very nearly unparalleled. That's why I don't think that there's an argument for it to be "overrated" - it's a remarkably important record in history.

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    definitely a masterpiece

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    Quote Originally Posted by radio View Post
    obviously everyone has their own tastes, preferences, etc. But even if you don't particularly enjoy the music itself, the scope and influence of the album is very nearly unparalleled. That's why I don't think that there's an argument for it to be "overrated" - it's a remarkably important record in history.
    Actually I like it, just like I like Bruchs Violin Concerto. But to let you into a secret,, I like it in small doses, and you will probably laugh. It's that infernal Harmon mute. It has the same effect on me as Benny Goodman . I can listen to Artie for ages, but only Benny in small doses, like that Harmon mute.

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    A masterpiece. Although it should not be described as a totally modal album since 40% of it is in blues form. It's only "Kind of Modal".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballad state of mind View Post
    Actually I like it, just like I like Bruchs Violin Concerto. But to let you into a secret,, I like it in small doses, and you will probably laugh. It's that infernal Harmon mute. It has the same effect on me as Benny Goodman . I can listen to Artie for ages, but only Benny in small doses, like that Harmon mute.
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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    What amazes me is that, although I've listened to So What, Freddie Freeloader and All Blues an incalculable number of times -- a thousand? I've never tired of Julian Adderley's or John Coltrane's solos. They remain fresh to my ears, each time -- even as I sing or whistle along with them. That's why I have to say masterpiece.

    Also, the album is to 20th century music what William Gibson would call a Nodal Point.

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    I agree, given the longevity and especially the influence of the album it certainly isn't overrated. Spooner really nailed it earlier, though, that the masterpiece is accessible even for wannabes like me, that is a big factor I think. Would jazz be different now if there had been no Kind of Blue? I think definitely.

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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    i too think Spooner's observations are spot-on. The album sums up nicely all that had come before and at the same time gave a new direction to jazz. No small feat by any standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mascio View Post
    The album sums up nicely all that had come before and at the same time gave a new direction to jazz. No small feat by any standard.
    Exactly. The question is about the album's "value". You either have to have a good sense of the history of jazz and/or have been there at the time of its release to fully understand its impact. This may be one of the most influential jazz recordings ever - hence its "value".
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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spooner View Post
    I think Kind of Blue is a wonderful example of an album that's been distilled down to an essence. Each member of the group lends their personality and voice, which are obviously pretty well developed and distinct.

    The other thing that makes Kind of Blue such an important album is that it's pretty accessible to most people, musician or not. The songs are framework for solos that are melodic--music that people can grab on to. If anyone I know expresses an interest in starting to listen to jazz, it's the album that I point them to as a good starting place.
    Also, I heard it was the first crossover album to use extensive modal work/harmonies.
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    Default Re: Do you think that "Kind of Blue" album is overvalued?

    Many years ago, when I was taking lessons and getting serious about playing, it was introduced to me as THE standard for modal jazz. It is still one of my favourites, I'd put it in the masterpiece category.
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