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Re: Lyon & Healy COUTURIER MODEL

This would appear to be a Couturier in a Buescher case, not a Buescher.
That's correct, and it is one of the first baring the name 'American Professional' without 'Lyon&Healy' .. , made late in 1923, that means before Lyon&Healy became the new owner of the Couturier factory. 1924 'American Professional' mutated to L&H's second line which was marginally different from their first line.

Systematically seen this saxophone is a stencil made by Couturier (being in receivership) for Lyon & Healy, but looking at Couturier saxophones in their entirety and historical context the term 'stencil' doesn't explain anything and misses the point.
 
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Re: Lyon & Healy COUTURIER MODEL

Hello,

I wanted to help a seller (or buyers?) and sent him/her a message that it's possibly a Martin (not a Buescher) but then I looked more closely and decided it was most likely a Couturier and sent him/her another message with 'possibly a Couturier'.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140481830532&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

Am I correct? The seller must be very confused now going from Buescher to Martin and now hearing about another brand :)
 
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Re: Lyon & Healy COUTURIER MODEL

...but then I looked more closely and decided it was most likely a Couturier and sent him/her another message with 'possibly a Couturier'.
... Am I correct?
You are right. This alto is made by Couturier just at the beginning of the receivership-period, October 1923. It's not a 'Couturier Model'. This term was created by Lyon & Healy, when the Couturier Band Instrument Company was incorporated.

The original assumption of the seller of being a Buescher is not as erroneous as it may seem. The bell engraving is identical to the saxophones Lyon & Healy obtained from Buescher before the exchange.
 
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Timeline

1. Made by Couturier November 1922 - September 1923

2. Receivership October 1923 - March 1924

2.1 Lyon&Healy 'American Professional' Oct-Nov. 1923

2.2 'American Professional' Nov. 1923


2.3 'Inspiration' February - March 1924

3. Lyon&Healy April 1924 - March 1928

3.1 'Couturier Model' April 1924 - 1925
3.2 'Artist Model' series I 1925 - 1926
3.3 'Artist Model' series IIa/IIb 1926 - March 1928

4. Holton Era April 1928-March1930

4.1 Lyon&Healy Artist Model series IIb, series III made by Holton
4.2 Collegiate I
4.3 Beaufort American

5. Elkhart Band Instrument Company April 1930 - 1931/32

5.1 The Couturier-Elkhart Model
 
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A very high number over 200K indicates the final development of the L and H version of the Couturier model, even though the name is not on it?
This is basically correct. But some distinctions are needed. Let me come back to this.
 
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