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sargebaker
04-11-2008, 12:19 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=C3TIMDtGArM

He has it in his hands from about 4:30 onwards and plays it around 5:12

Coincidentally I watched Stroscek (sp?) - a film by Werner Herzog yesterday and the main character has a smaller version of the horn which they called a "buglehorn" but when I search nothing comes up...HELP! The thing sounds AMAZING (from the very few notes that are played)

seen also in the intro here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nVJkzUo5VPY

SaxxMan
04-11-2008, 12:29 AM
Wow...Never seen anything like that before...:shock:

That looked really weird.

The tone was interesting, but both examples only played long tones.

I wonder if it plays individual notes or melody?

Conrado
04-11-2008, 01:21 AM
That instrument definitely has saxual dna. It reminds me of a new animal I saw on the Francois Luis home page - see at the bottom here:

http://www.francois-louis.com/index.html

Stated as Franšios' latest "creation" - clicking on the image takes you here:

http://www.aulochrome.com/

It looks like a stereo-soprano touted as the first "polyphonic" saxophone. The one on youtube above seemed to have more horn endings, and this one also has 2 mpcs at the front end.

Here is a youtube of the instrument being played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWZ1ADDkobc

Interesting possibilities! :shock:

sargebaker
04-11-2008, 02:48 AM
I was well aware of the aulochrome and was also reminded of it by the horn in my OP. It seems to be a brass instrument, I posted the same thread in the brass section but haven't gotten any answers. To me it does sound a bit similar to (the lower register) of a soprano sax, only numerous being played.

I figured/hopes at least someone on this site would know what this beast was! I'm lead to believe (from the Herzog film) that it is a bass "version" of whatever type of horn it is... Perhaps it is of German heritage?

DukeCity
04-11-2008, 03:00 AM
Looks like it might be a multi-bell cornet (developed by Adolph Sax ca. 1850). It has seven bells, one for each possible combination of valves.

I found some mention of it online, but haven't come across an image of it yet...

Martin Williams
04-11-2008, 03:03 AM
How about my dual belled trumpet?

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c154/bluedefinition/IMG_0365.jpg

themacintrasher
04-11-2008, 03:15 AM
http://www.horncollector.com/Other%20Instruments/Schalmei/4%20Bel%20Schalme%20made%20by%20DRGM.htm
It's one of these

Martin Williams
04-11-2008, 03:57 AM
Good job man!

zxcvbnm
04-11-2008, 04:03 AM
Btw, how does your dual belled trumpet work, and what is the extra bell for?

DukeCity
04-11-2008, 04:09 AM
That looks like it, except the one in the video has seven bells instead of four.

About 25 years ago, Dave Monette made a double bell trumpet for Bobby Shew (dubbed the Shewhorn). There was an extra valve which would switch the airflow from one bell to the other. Bobby would put a harmon mute in one of the bells, and basically trade 4's with himself.

requisite YouTube link to video of the Shewhorn in action (http://youtube.com/watch?v=f6ayD4yjUQk)

Conrado
04-11-2008, 04:43 AM
THe original youtube video I thought sounded like a sax not a trumpet.

themacintrasher
04-11-2008, 04:52 AM
That looks like it, except the one in the video has seven bells instead of four.

About 25 years ago, Dave Monette made a double bell trumpet for Bobby Shew (dubbed the Shewhorn). There was an extra valve which would switch the airflow from one bell to the other. Bobby would put a harmon mute in one of the bells, and basically trade 4's with himself.

requisite YouTube link to video of the Shewhorn in action (http://youtube.com/watch?v=f6ayD4yjUQk)

http://www.horncollector.com/Other%20Instruments/Schalmei/Schalmei%20Horns.htm
It's not a trumpet, it's actually a woodwind.

Agent27
04-11-2008, 05:01 AM
http://www.horncollector.com/Other%20Instruments/Schalmei/Schalmei%20Horns.htm
It's not a trumpet, it's actually a woodwind.

I guess the reed is kind of inside, like a harmonica.

sargebaker
04-11-2008, 05:13 AM
The 4 bell one looks exactly like the one from the movie... only it had only 1 valve. It's hard to tell the actual size of the instrument from the pictures but it seems as though the one Jackson plays in the video would be larger... (Bass Schalmei?) I wonder if anyone is still making these or where they could be found... I'd LOVE one!

Martin Williams
04-11-2008, 05:21 AM
Btw, how does your dual belled trumpet work, and what is the extra bell for?

Mine worked the same as the Shew horn does. It just didnt quite look as pretty as Dave Monette's. The fourth valve is hidden behind my hand. It was alot of fun to make though!