Flat & Sharp

[vonbraig]

10M

Flat on top.
Sharp on bottom.


Had extra length added to the neck since I play a short shank selmer soloist. I'm doing some serious stuff to play close to the pitch.

Advice

[zxcvbnm]

Might want to try a different mouthpiece. I doubt something like a soloist really goes well with a 10m. The chamber is too small.

[bruce bailey]

Possible that the keys are too closed. Got a photo of the stack sections?

[MojoBari]

This is an indication that you need to push in and use a larger chamber mouthpiece. I have a FAQ answer on my site about chamber size. It is near the bottom of my FAQ list.

Also see if this article helps:

http://www.yamaha.ca/advertising/dow..._Tips_Duke.pdf

[skippy]

Get a Link STM, preferably the NY model (larger chamber).

[vonbraig]

I had a Link 4***. I can't believe I'm thinking about switching to a Selmer.

[skippy]

I had a Link 4***. I can't believe I'm thinking about switching to a Selmer.

I'm confused. Your first post made it sound like you're already playing a Selmer on your 10M.

How well did your Link play on the 10M?

[Fungus Mungus]

I guess the 10M and 12M models are really picky about mouthpieces...like others have said, you'll want a large chamber piece. I settled on a Gale on my 12M and it played perfectly. It was hopelessly sharp using a Selmer Soloist. The 6M is much more forgiving...I've been able to play pretty much any piece on that horn, but I always go back to a vintage Brilhart or Meyer.

fm

[MojoBari]

Not all 10Ms need large chamber mouthpiece. I play late 60's 10Ms and we like medium-small chambers.

Skippy, I think he is thinking about switching to a Selmer sax too.

[skippy]

Not all 10Ms need large chamber mouthpiece. I play late 60's 10Ms and we like medium-small chambers.

Skippy, I think he is thinking about switching to a Selmer sax too.

Ohhh...I see....thanks.

And agreed - it depends on the vintage of the 10M.

vonbraing - what's the serial # range of your 10M?

[Collie]

I just wantet to throw something in....

I got a 10m S/N 313xxx and with a Link STM it just has the effect you are describing, vonbraig!
Using a Brilhart Personaline round chamber mpc doesn't show that effect so much, but the intonation is uneven.

A Brilhart Tonalin gives the best results and the intonation is almost perfect!
A Morgan Excalibur E is nearly as perfect....

[vonbraig]

Yea thinking about the horn because I really like the focus of the Selmer Soloist D.

[les]

Dude,
Key heights. You need to have the key heights re-set. I've played a short shank Selmer on many 10M's and it isn't a problem if the KEY HEIGHTS are set up right, which they usually aren't. There are better choices for a mouthpiece on a Conn, but a Selmer shouldn't create any unusual problems.

The second problem could be (maybe) you. If you use a tuner to tune, throw it away and get the Tuning CD and practice tuning by EAR, not by EYE. If you could take a tune/solo by a well-in-tune player and check every note on a tuner, you would see that most players are VERY out of tune with a tuner, regardless of how many hours they spend practicing with it. However, they may be perceived as being very well in tune because the tempered scale is the standard by which musical tuning is judged and achieved, not the absolute pitch of the modern electronic tuner.
Call me if you want to discuss your horn/mouthpiece scene.
Les
saxoasis.com
781-326-9557

[Mike Cesati]

Hi Les,

We miss you out east.

Dude , Call Les , Les is the man.

[les]

Thanks for the vote of connfidence, Mike. Stay cool.

[Pete Thomas]

I've owned a couple of Naked Lady 30s 10Ms, played quite a few others, and never ever noticed them being picky about mouthpiececs (unlike the earlier big bore or Chu Berry).

I've used Guardala, Selmer soloist, Berg Larsens, Vandorens - no problem. I would not blame the mouthpiece in this case.

[Graftonsax]

My 12m is picky about mouthpiece chamber, but that will make the entire horn out of whack in the same manner, not just the top or bottom.

[skippy]

I defer to Les and Pete.

[Pete Thomas]

My 12m is picky about mouthpiece chamber, but that will make the entire horn out of whack in the same manner, not just the top or bottom.

I had a 12M, unlike my 10Ms, it too was picky. Didn't like a Lawton at all, but was in tune with a Slant Link.

[xax]

(unlike the earlier big bore or Chu Berry).

I don't understand...do 10Ms and 30Ms have a smaller or a larger bore than NW1s and NW2s? (or same)