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    Another one for the registry--cool old Bari, serial number 27688.






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    Another bari, interestingly marked "Revelation" (which was dubbed as a "Revelation series III" by us if I'm not mistaken) as well as "215" according to the ad, serial number 117436.





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    Quote Originally Posted by geauxsax View Post
    Another one for the registry--cool old Bari, serial number 27688.
    Those palm keys look treacherous! Thanks for posting.

    So, are you playing bari now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by soybean View Post
    Those palm keys look treacherous! Thanks for posting.

    So, are you playing bari now?
    No--It was tempting though!

    What really gets me is that I posted some info about a 270 bari a while back that went for $399. Why didn't I get it???

    And yes-though are some funky-looking palm keys on that bari!

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    SN #35947 added to the Wiedoeft list.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1920s-HOLTON-RUD...QQcmdZViewItem
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    ... and this one (#34996). Only one number higher than the R.W. soprano (#34995) which tells us that Holton saxophones were probably numbered contineously (as they left the factory) and not in serial specific blocks.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rudy-Wie...QQcmdZViewItem
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


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    A cross-breeding Wiedoeft/Revelation model SN#36894 I've never seen before. A special edition? Very similiar to the pre-Wiedoeft model!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1920S-FRANK-HOLT...QQcmdZViewItem
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


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    LaPorte, i was waiting for you to comment on that one. The case also looks unusual. I don't remember seeing that type before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soybean View Post
    The case also looks unusual. I don't remember seeing that type before.
    My 'Symphony' (Lyon&Healy) alto came with exact that type of case which is possibly original as I cannot find any exposing double prints in the velvet (other than in the case of the Holton alto above).
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


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    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-BEAUFORT...QQcmdZViewItem

    'BEAUFORT AMERICAN CHICAGO USA' Holton/Conn Trademark ca. 1930/31. This bari was made by Conn.
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


    "Why would I play on an ordinary, modern horn if it doesn't bring any special character to the music?" Al Mc Lean

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    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


    "Why would I play on an ordinary, modern horn if it doesn't bring any special character to the music?" Al Mc Lean

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    Holton fans,

    I would like to encourage you all to contribute the collected Holton info and pictures we've been assembling here to the new website: saxonline.info.

    If you aren't familiar, the idea for this new site sprung from this thread:
    http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?t=98626

    The idea was to have a current site like saxpics used to be, with the added bonus that it would be interactive, in thatwe could post pics and info. SOTWer Dixiesax too the lead and is off and running with the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaPorte View Post
    A cross-breeding Wiedoeft/Revelation model SN#36894 I've never seen before. A special edition? Very similiar to the pre-Wiedoeft model!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1920S-FRANK-HOLT...QQcmdZViewItem
    Here is another 'wiedoeftoid' (RevelationI with C-vent key!), a tenor SN#33846
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Frank-Ho...QQcmdZViewItem

    Could anybody save some convincing photos? Any suggestions how to name the model?

    Felix
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


    "Why would I play on an ordinary, modern horn if it doesn't bring any special character to the music?" Al Mc Lean

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaPorte View Post
    Here is another 'wiedoeftoid' (RevelationI with C-vent key!), a tenor SN#33846
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Frank-Ho...QQcmdZViewItem

    Could anybody save some convincing photos? Any suggestions how to name the model?

    Felix
    How about Holton Wiedoeft Transitional, or Holton Tranny for short?

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    Another documented Serial Number-- Ebay #220321987269. I asked the seller to list the letter date and serial#. It is #28199 and the letter from Holton is dated 2/26/27. It looks to me like the fast sellers (altos such as this) moved quickly out of the plant. I'm guessing my Rudy C Melody (#26XXX) may have been built a year or so before it was sold, as according to my Rudy brochure, the Rudys came out in the dealers by the Spring of 1928. By the later 20s, C melody sales were dropping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geauxsax View Post
    How about Holton Wiedoeft Transitional, or Holton Tranny for short?
    Thank you for your suggestions, geauxsax. I'll come back later to this topic.

    Felix
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbug1 View Post
    Another documented Serial Number-- Ebay #220321987269. I asked the seller to list the letter date and serial#. It is #28199 and the letter from Holton is dated 2/26/27. It looks to me like the fast sellers (altos such as this) moved quickly out of the plant. I'm guessing my Rudy C Melody (#26XXX) may have been built a year or so before it was sold, as according to my Rudy brochure, the Rudys came out in the dealers by the Spring of 1928. By the later 20s, C melody sales were dropping.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Frank-Holton-Elk...QQcmdZViewItem

    We have an additional (approximative) reference now! Thank you, jazzbug!

    Felix
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


    "Why would I play on an ordinary, modern horn if it doesn't bring any special character to the music?" Al Mc Lean

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    Holton bari model 215 (Revelation III ? A better foto from the front engraving would be helpful) SN# 126610 from 1939:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1920s-Vintage-Ho...QQcmdZViewItem
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


    "Why would I play on an ordinary, modern horn if it doesn't bring any special character to the music?" Al Mc Lean

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    R.W. alto SN# 36979 for the list page 6 (it's growing!).

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Old-SP-R...QQcmdZViewItem
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


    "Why would I play on an ordinary, modern horn if it doesn't bring any special character to the music?" Al Mc Lean

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    When did the C-melody saxophone disappear?

    Jazzbugs last contribution leads me to the idea to find a Holton C-melody with a serial number as high as possible. Any info?

    Felix
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


    "Why would I play on an ordinary, modern horn if it doesn't bring any special character to the music?" Al Mc Lean

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