How many of you are smoker? Do you think it really harmful on our skill (but many Master player are heavy smoker...)?
er ... just so we know ... which six?Thomas said:HF & s-gentlemen(or ladies)........correct on all six observations!
I don't mean to offend you Hurling, but I truly thought your name was a nom de forum! ...Hurling Frootmig said:Let's hope no one would name their child Hurling if the child was a girl.
Hey, Bootman! That sounds like something I used to say. You're right about addictive personalities. I even got hooked on nicorettes for 2 years. Smoked for 41 years and smoked myself right into emphysema/COPD. Now instead of playing sax for fun, I'm playing sax for theraputic purposes (hehehe its still fun). Turns out that its a great therapy instrument as it helps me blow out the poisonous gases that get trapped in my lungs, strengthens the diaphram to make breathing easier and keeps me a few steps ahead of hauling a tank of oxygen around with me. One thing is for sure, you'll either quit smoking or smoking will quit you.Bootman said:You guys forget the innevitable statement about death that Thomas made, we will all die one day. This is a given fact. Most players I know smoke. I wish I could quit but it seems to go hand in hand with an addictive personality.
Holy cow! My father had a heart attack in October, a week after my birthday, and he has since lost 50 pounds, changed his diet almost completely, and quit smoking cold turkey. Hence, the men around his age at his place of business began a health program because some of them are at equal or greater risk for a heart attack than my dad. I can never get over people who just go back to old habits after having heart problems.Ian said:You've gotta love smokers. They keep me in business (cardiologist). Even though you tell them their bypass grafts are twice as likely to block up, they keep at it. Even though you tell them they have double the risk of another heart attack, they keep at it!
Believe it or not Chris I did actually put some thought into what I wrote, and it wasn't meant to be insulting to you or anyone else. I was wary of it turning into a major argument and the last thing I want is to generate hostility.thesonandall said:stitch,
1) There are such things as addictive personalities. Go look it up in any half-a**ed psychology book. I happen to be one of these people, and I resent the fact that you're accusing me of 'passing the buck.' I've never once used it as an excuse, and I never will.
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4) As you've obviously never dealt with any kind of an addiction, I suggest you keep your negative comments and unfounded conclusions to yourself until you've done a bit more research on the subject.
Chris S
I understand better what you meant by your previous statements. I do have a clinically diagnosed addictive personality. Partially I think becuase of my parents (blame everything on your parents ), alcoholic father, and both my parents have smoked since they were 17 or so.While I don't doubt that an "addictive personality" is a recognised clinical disorder, I suspect that very few of those that claim it have acually been diagnosed as such - in that sense they are using it as an excuse.
I started smoking when I was 16, and as proposterous as it might sound I started because I had just moved away from home (and all the second hand smoke) and was taking care of my neice and nephew (7 and 5 at the time, respectivley). I'm not trying to make excuses here mind you, just telling you how I came to be a smoker. I went through a sort of 'withdrawl' after having been around smoke for my entire life. I haven't read any scientific data to show that someone can become addicted through second hand smoke, but I believe that maybe this had something to do with why I started. Also, when you're 16 and watching 2 small children.... stressed out doesn't even begin to describe it. So, I started smoking as a way to relieve stress. Come to find out many dollars and years later that smoking actually causes stress. At the time I started, I knew they were bad for you, but at the time I was young and invincible ;-) . Did I choose to start, yes. Is it as easy to choose to stop.... that's a battle I'm not willing to get into.you're 20 years old; you absolutely MUST know alll about the health implications of smoking - how could you possibly not? - and yet you STILL chose to take it up!
I believe you meant 'made that choice.' We can argue day and night that every day you wake up and you choose to be a smoker, but then again... that's a battle I'm not willing to fight.I merely wonder why you would make that choice, knowing what you do.
CONGRATS! I found that this is working for me also. Weird for this to have happened as I got to this topic, but my step-father passed away a week or so ago due to decreases lung capacity from 40+ years of two packs or more a day. From what I understand the non-breathing wasn't what actually did him in, but something associated.... some kind of organ failure. If what I understand is correct, this doesn't go on the tabbaco companies 'death toll,' because it wasn't 'directly related' to his smoking. Well, after I watched him fade (we weren't really very close) I decided that I didn't want to end up like that. So the day he died I quit. It's been a week and two days without a cigarette, and so far so good (minus some headaches, shakiness, and grouchiness).Odd story, as far as quitting smoking:
I started smoking at 7, inhaling at 11, smoked for 25 years.
Tried to stop 1/2 doz times over the years with no lasting effect, obviously.
Then I quit, like flipping a light switch. Just thought 'hmmm, whatever is making me smoke is never going away, so why (really) smoke, learn to live with the "habit" sans smoking.' That did it. 'Course, I've gained a heck of a lot of weight; but, I'm much more health being fat than I was smoking.
And, I've found that eating is easier to control than smoking.
Way to go. Ain't it amazing what we all can do if we put our mind to it. :thumbrig:...It's been a week and two days without a cigarette, and so far so good (minus some headaches, shakiness, and grouchiness).