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    I bought a very clean Bundy Special a few years ago at a music store that had it listed as a student Bundy saxophone. I knew immediately that it was a Keilwerth stencil horn so having my mouthpiece with me I gave it a blow. Huge, thick tone is what I heard and I bought it for about $450.00. What are these saxes worth?, soon after I bought the tenor I bought a Couf Superba I alto which I like even more because of the improved key mechanism. I was thinking of selling this Bundy to fund a Couf tenor or used SX 90. One question, are the rolled tone holes soldered rings on the old Keilwerth also? Anyway, I really like the big tone of this tenor. Thanks in advance for any responses.

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    Default Re: Keilwerth made Bundy Special Tenor Sax, What's It Worth?

    Quote Originally Posted by vbluesman View Post
    I bought a very clean Bundy Special a few years ago at a music store that had it listed as a student Bundy saxophone. I knew immediately that it was a Keilwerth stencil horn so having my mouthpiece with me I gave it a blow. Huge, thick tone is what I heard and I bought it for about $450.00. What are these saxes worth?, soon after I bought the tenor I bought a Couf Superba I alto which I like even more because of the improved key mechanism. I was thinking of selling this Bundy to fund a Couf tenor or used SX 90. One question, are the rolled tone holes soldered rings on the old Keilwerth also? Anyway, I really like the big tone of this tenor. Thanks in advance for any responses.
    I had one of these! Great sax, but I decided to stick with the Martin. The tone was so spread with the mps I use!

    From what I have seen (unfortunately) they sell for a lot less than they are worth, quality wise. You should be able to get a little more than you paid, but not a huge amount. I think I sold mine for something like $800-900, but that was with a fresh overhaul.

    Good luck!
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    Hi, How about posting a picture or two of your Bundy Special?

    I have a 1940 Keilwerth tone king alto and the rolled tone holes on it look just like Conns and are not a soldered rim. Micro-tuner neck loos a lot like Conns. I wonder who copied who?

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    I'm wondering about the rolled tone holes, are the soldered rims something they started in the nineties? I don't have the sax with me right now, it's on a short term loan to a friend but there are plenty of photos of these around. It looks like an old Tone King with the nickel keys, rods, key cups and guards. I have a couple of Super 20 tenors that are my main horns but that Bundy Special is a real nice change of pace alternative. I saw on eBay that Wichita Horn was asking $1900.00 for one with a new overhaul which got me to thinking about the Specials realistic value.

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    Old JK's have true rolled holes, not soldered on. Rleitch is correct, top dollar would be $800-900 on a good week; but on a normal week maybe $750.

    Even in the fake dubya bubble days, a Bundy Special Tenor would not fetch more than $1000 -1100.

    Superba I is the exact same body in all respects, and the keywork is 75% identical. You are correct, it does employ what people refer to as a more 'modern' pinky table. I sometimes muse about taking New Kings and just having my tech alter the pinky table mechanisms a bit....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayePDX View Post
    I sometimes muse about taking New Kings and just having my tech alter the pinky table mechanisms a bit....
    Would you stop there with key mods to New Kings? While I agree about the pinky table (you need a map to find B after years of playing more modern saxes), the Bis key touch is also misplaced in my opinion. PLUS, the edge of the ridiculously small pearl button that passes for a left hand thumb rest cuts painfully into the pad of my thumb unless I alter my stance of 45+ years to have the bell beside me. Don't get me wrong, I think my 1953 silver plated New King with lucite guards is just about the coolest looking and monster playing saxophone I've ever owned, but the ergos are a challenge which I think deserve a trip to the tech and a few little mods.
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    One last question about the Bundy Special. Was it marketed as a student model by Selmer? It has nickel keys and rods and a somewhat simplified mechanism. It really has a huge, hulking sound to it.... Thanks for any responses.

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    Default Re: Keilwerth made Bundy Special Tenor Sax, What's It Worth?

    I got a nice Bundy Special tenor on ebay a couple of years ago for $500,
    good condition with really good pads.

    So, resell is about what you paid for it.

    It has real rolled tone holes, not the soldered on tone hole rings/sleeves.
    My wife, whose ears I trust, said that my sound is much fuller, richer, more powerful and resonant on this set up.
    ... but really folks... my wife said, " It sounds like a saxophone ".

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