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    Default Remove lig scratch from hard rubber mpc?

    Hi guys,

    So I've got a hard rubber mpc, and my metal ligature has managed to scratch the surface. I know it's only a cosmetic thing, but I would still like to know if there are any cheap-ish ways to either fill the scratch or possibly "colour it in"? The scratch isn't very deep, maybe 0.5mm, but it is still quite noticeable especially to me as it is fairly new!

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    Forum Contributor 2014 Pete Thomas's Avatar
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    Default Re: Remove lig scratch from hard rubber mpc?

    A light scratch you could try using sandpaper, start with something coarse enough to get the scratch out, then use finer and finer. E.g 300, 600 then 1200 and finally buff it if necessry. I would find an old rubbish mouthpiece to practise on first.

    Another thing would be to get hold of some black epoxy filler, e.g. Car body filler. Again practise first before trying I on your best mouthpiece.

    If you can't get black filler, you should be able to get grey, and maybe add something like blackbird paint.

    Thing is, it will get scratched again.

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    Default Re: Remove lig scratch from hard rubber mpc?

    0.5mm is pretty deep. If I were you, I would leave it as it is, and use a different ligature
    For me, vandoren optimum is an excellent ligature that both works well and does not damage mpc.

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    Default Re: Remove lig scratch from hard rubber mpc?

    A lig that causes a groove that deep in a mpce needs to be looked at. Perhaps a burr on an edge or something like that.
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    Perhaps it's less deep than that, I'm not great with measurements! The scratch is just below the surface of the mpc, it's not too deep.
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    Default Re: Remove lig scratch from hard rubber mpc?

    Half a mil would definitely catch your fingernail it's around 20 thousands of an inch
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    Default Re: Remove lig scratch from hard rubber mpc?

    First you need to fix the ligature or switch to one that does not scratch. Locate the part of the lig that scratches the mouthpiece and bend it away from the mouthpiece or file/sand it smooth.

    Deep scratches in HR can be filled with black Apoxie Fix-It. Shallow ones can be sanded out. But to get a shiny finish you need to finish with a polishing compound then a polish like Flitz. Usually not worth the cost and effort.

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    Default Re: Remove lig scratch from hard rubber mpc?

    Yes as Mojo says, you'll need polishing compound if you want to make it shiny and new, along with a bit of elbow grease.

    If it's shallow enough to sand out I usually do this: start with 320 or 400 grit to remove the big scratches, move to progressively finer sandpaper to remove the smaller scratches, go from 600 to 1200 to 200 after the heavier grit you started with. Then, take a soft cloth and some car-wax type gritty polishing compound and rub that on the area where you've been working. Afterwards, finally, take a chamois and some plastic polish (Kit car polish or Flitz, you need something non-abrasive for this), and go to town with the chamois. Rub the plastic/metal polish into the rubber and then use a dry part of the chamois to really rub the rubber to a like-new shine. This works for any hard rubber piece.

    Of course, you'll want to stay far away from the playing surfaces like the rails and table unless you're deliberately trying to change something about the mouthpiece's playing surfaces.
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