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    Default Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    I'm curious about those pieces. I've never seen or played one and I don´t know exactly how they are. The price is a little bit scary, so would like to try something similar.
    Roll over baffle (pronounced, small...)
    Chamber ?
    Side Walls ?
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    i emailed him about a HR one and he said the price was 480 euro's. its pricey but its still less than alot of other mouthpieces on the market

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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    +1 for Drake Son of Slant medium chamber tenor piece.

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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    @ Tom Walsh
    I thought they were more expensive. I only asked for the price of the metal ones some years ago. The HR are expensives but tempting....

    @ Tzadik
    That's what I'm playing now. I'm really comfortable with this mouthpiece.
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Quote Originally Posted by monkmydear View Post
    @ Tzadik
    That's what I'm playing now. I'm really comfortable with this mouthpiece.
    I think you can save the €480 for the FG Mark II.
    If you need some fatness and punchy tone... go for the SoS large chamber.
    They have the same name... but they sound so different: http://fotoalbum.virgilio.it/tzadik/drake_sos_chambers/

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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    There is a noticeable difference, you're right. not only in the chamber but also in the length of the mouthpiece.
    What about the Jazz model you're playing? Differences in baffle, chamber, sound?
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Yes... they are differents.
    To me, the SoS large chamber can be more versatile... it sounds like a funky piece if you use medium strenght reeds.
    But it's easier to play if you use harder reed... with hard reeds it can sound close to the Jerry Bergonzi vibe.
    The SoS medium, when pushed, is more into Joshua Redman, to me.
    My two cents.

    The "Jazz" is again another thing.
    The chamber diameter is between the SoS medium chamber and the SoS large chamber. http://fotoalbum.virgilio.it/tzadik/...-son_of_slant/
    It's more like a metal Link... but more compressed/smooth sounding due to the resin, longer rollover baffle (similar to the Tone Edge EB).
    To me, it's somewhat fatter than the SoS medium chamber... but anyway, the vibe is different (less mid, clearer sound).
    Compared to my Florida No Usa... it has more depth, less nasality/mids, more punch and volume, pretty the same resistance... and it's quite darker than the Florida, but not as "vintage sounding".
    The "NY Jazz" tenor is more close to the Florida, IMHO.

    I think the "Jazz" can be compared to the FG Mark IV... but they sound different.
    Very versatile piece... I use it for almost everything (changing different reeds for my needs).

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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Thanks for the review and for the pics too. Very helpful.
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Quote Originally Posted by Tzadik View Post
    Yes... they are differents.
    To me, the SoS large chamber can be more versatile... it sounds like a funky piece if you use medium strenght reeds.
    But it's easier to play if you use harder reed... with hard reeds it can sound close to the Jerry Bergonzi vibe.
    That begs the question of how the Mouthpiece Cafe "Bergnzi Slant Signature" compares in this mix. Have you played that model as well?
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    OT:
    Unfortunately I've never tried the "Bergonzi Slant Supreme".
    A friend of mine used to own one (the Bergonzi Supreme Slant) and he told me he found it (the Bergonzi Supreme Slant) similar to the Vandoren V16 hr rubber mouthpiece. He sold the Mouthpiece Cafè and he kept the Vandoren.
    I personally don't think the Mouthpiece Cafè can be so similar to the Vandoren V16 but... I cannot say.

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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Thanks.
    Go for The Tone,

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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Drake pieces, especially the SoS are amongst the best HR pieces I could try. Rich tone but with plenty of projection. I have currently a SoS large chamber on order. Curious to see how it will compare to my all-round RPC ;-)
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    I personally have owned a Mouthpiece Cafe Bergonzi Slant piece and although it was a nice mpc, it has nothing to do with a FG Mark II. The FG is fatter, more powerful, much more colorful and way more flexible. I did think that the Cafe was closer to a V16.

    I also tried the tenor Drake NY Jazz. Nice, but I found it too bright for my taste. I am curious about the SoS, but I'm not really LOOKING to get one.
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    The SoS medium chamber is the best mouthpiece I've tried so far. A lot of power, easy blowing comfortable. I'm very happy with it, but I'm curious about the FG mark II. If you ever play one jlima, please let me/us know your opinion regarding to the FG.
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Quote Originally Posted by jlima View Post
    I personally have owned a Mouthpiece Cafe Bergonzi Slant piece and although it was a nice mpc, it has nothing to do with a FG Mark II. The FG is fatter, more powerful, much more colorful and way more flexible. I did think that the Cafe was closer to a V16.

    I also tried the tenor Drake NY Jazz. Nice, but I found it too bright for my taste. I am curious about the SoS, but I'm not really LOOKING to get one.
    why not ? .... come on ... life is too short ;-)
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Quote Originally Posted by jlima View Post
    I personally have owned a Mouthpiece Cafe Bergonzi Slant piece and although it was a nice mpc, it has nothing to do with a FG Mark II. The FG is fatter, more powerful, much more colorful and way more flexible. I did think that the Cafe was closer to a V16.
    Hmmmm, sooooooooooo... Anyone compared a Lamberson L7 to a FG Mk II 8 (both .110")? These were two of my favorites at separate times but I didn't own them during the same period or even with the same horn.
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    Default Re: Modern Mouthpieces similar to Freddie Gregory Mark II

    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    why not ? .... come on ... life is too short ;-)
    That is precisely why I take every possible minute to truly enjoy my Mark II :-)
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