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    Default If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    This is what Courtney Pine says at the end of this video (3:35)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RScuj...feature=relmfu

    What do you suppose that's about?
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    Has he said in the vid, I'm suspecting the issue is similar to old rubber where the process and end product wouldn't meet safety or environmental regulations.

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    Default Re: If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    Have you ever held a geiger counter up to a Mark VI?..........

    Wow.....
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    Default Re: If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    Quote Originally Posted by magical pig View Post
    .... end product wouldn't meet safety or environmental regulations.
    Yeah, but what's so toxic about brass?
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    Lead?

    Maybe it's not the product, but the fabrication process that would yield toxic waste?

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    That's the true source of the Mark VI "thing"! It's all about the toxicity. He wasn't supposed to tell anyone . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Laughlin View Post
    That's the true source of the Mark VI "thing"! It's all about the toxicity. He wasn't supposed to tell anyone . . .
    Conspiracy? Is he going to be Wacked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba06 View Post
    Conspiracy? Is he going to be Wacked?

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    I've said too much already.

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    Default Re: If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    Mark tox-VI?

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    Could it be that the players of the 50's sounded so great because they were not consumed with such nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonnymobleytrane View Post
    Could it be that the players of the 50's sounded so great because they were not consumed with such nonsense?
    But didn't most of them die? Mark VI = early grave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    But didn't most of them die? Mark VI = early grave
    The mystery thickens!!

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    Default Re: If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    So THAT's what the Mark VI mystique is all about. Players got their brains addled. Explains a lot.
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    it's a bit off topic but still interesting. i think everyone hear knows the story about the brass from the artillery shells? It turns out they use brass from artillery shells in the large hadron collider because it such a high quality brass:') so maybe there is some truth to that story
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    Default Re: If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    Quote Originally Posted by piwikiwi View Post
    i think everyone hear knows the story about the brass from the artillery shells
    I first heard this story 1n 1982, about Bach trumpets. What is so mysterious about brass? It is an alloy.
    Anyway, Mk VI were made also with UNEXPLODED artillery shells, hence the health and safety concern. This is also the reason I do not bring my MkVI on airplanes as checked-in baggage: too dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldevis View Post
    I first heard this story 1n 1982, about Bach trumpets. What is so mysterious about brass? It is an alloy.
    Anyway, Mk VI were made also with UNEXPLODED artillery shells, hence the health and safety concern. This is also the reason I do not bring my MkVI on airplanes as checked-in baggage: too dangerous.
    Traces of explosives?:')
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    Default Re: If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    so called cartridge brass is a type of brass, not necessarily recuperated from old cartridges......
    http://www.farmerscopper.com/cartridge-brass.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by milandro View Post
    not necessarily recuperated from old cartridges......[/url]
    So it can be reproduced. This confirms my theory about gunpowder. If you think of John Coltrane (and others), there was definitely gunpowder somewhere.

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    Oh it turns out that I should read the stuff first then post something about it here. They used Russian artillery shell casings because it was cheap and it had the right properties.:')
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    Default Re: If they brought back the Mark VI, it would be banned......

    Quote Originally Posted by piwikiwi View Post
    .... They used Russian artillery shell casings because it was cheap and it had the right properties.:')
    if it was Russian hence it was communist........... it had no personal properties............

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