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    I am working on a deal for a 1968 MKVI Tenor. The horn is owned by a elderly old former pro musician. He is the second owner in the early 80's.

    The horn is in very good condition. The only question is if it has original lacquer and that I cant play it first because its on the other side of the country.

    I have bought a horn from him before. The horn has sat untouched for nearly 25yrs so that could explain why the lacquer is in such good shape.

    How do I know if this is a US assembled horn or french?

    how much would it be worth? if it is relacquered hown much less?

    thanks

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    Default Re: 1968 Selmer Mk VI

    What is he asking for it?
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    Default Re: 1968 Selmer Mk VI

    maybe around $4000. I'm not sure. We have had other business dealings

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    Relaq or not, that's a very good deal IMO.
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    $4000 is really a great deal, esp after looking the crazy price in http://www.robertoswinds.com/mark_six.php?subcat_id=0

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    How do I know if this is a US assembled horn or french?

    how much would it be worth? if it is relacquered hown much less?

    thanks
    French assembled horns have different engraving,which is very similar to the current "butterfly" pattern on current Selmer horns, or no engraving , since it was an option outside the U. S. French assembled lacquer is lighter (clearer in color) as opposed to the more "golden" American lacquer. French lacquer doesn't seem to darken as quickly, so a '68 French finish (similar to my '69 French assembled Tenor) will look "newer" than you would expect on an American horn.

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    To add to the above, My '69 was engraved after lacquering so there is corrosion in the area of the engraving. I believe this has always been the case with both American and French Selmers. I would be suspicious of a re-lacquer if there wasn't some corrosion around the engraving after 30 + years.

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    It was my understanding that the french horns were engraved first, and then lacquered over the engraving.
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    If MARK VI is engraved on the bow to bell ring it is an american assembled horn--it shouldn't matter at all whether it's euro or US assembled and especially at that price. Shouldn't matter if it's a relax at that price either--relacs very rarely affect the greatness of these tenors...if its an alto....well then it isn't really a saxophone but a child's toy.
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    Sounds like a fantastic deal to me. Relacqs (well done ones) tend to devalue a sax only from a collectors viewpoint. My '74 is a relacq, I got a great deal on it and it plays great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdowlin View Post
    It was my understanding that the french horns were engraved first, and then lacquered over the engraving.
    I have one, '69 tenor, it's original and it was definitely engraved after being lacquered, with the butterfly pattern, + engraving on the bow.

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    It definately has MKVI engraved on the bow to bell ring

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    If MARK VI is engraved on the bow to bell ring it is an american assembled horn-
    Both my French assembled Tenor and my American Alto have "Mark VI" engraved on the bow ring. The lack of it will possibly indicate French but it being there does not indicate American, since Selmer France, must have varied the engraving at certain periods. The engraving pattern is the way to tell. However, this really should not be a concern. There is no difference except cosmetics. There is an old wive's tale about Selmer, France sending the best horns to the States, which is silly on several levels. Does anyone really believe that the independent French Selmer Company would send the best stuff out and keep the rejects for themselves ---come on! Also, American horns arrived as unlacquered unengraved parts, so any testing in France was probably pretty cursory, based on the fact that the horns had to be disassemled to ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
    Shouldn't matter if it's a relax at that price either--relacs very rarely affect the greatness of these tenors...if its an alto....well then it isn't really a saxophone but a child's toy.
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    +1 on the deal if it's $4k. You can afford to get a good overhaul and have a fine horn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soprano View Post
    $4000 is really a great deal, esp after looking the crazy price in http://www.robertoswinds.com/mark_six.php?subcat_id=0
    Haha yeah I agree, that's a good price for that sax, relaq or not. I was at Robertos recently, and those prices are crazy!! A relaq VI 14xxxx for $10,000?! I ended up finding a better horn at a better price

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    Default Re: 1968 Selmer Mk VI

    If you can get it for $4k or less, most of what you are asking about doesn't really matter. What matters most in any case is playing condition (you'll need to spend more to get it into top shape) and how well it plays/sounds. I realize you can't play test it, but at that price if you don't like it, you can easily sell it on. I bet it will be a very good horn, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    If you can get it for $4k or less, most of what you are asking about doesn't really matter. What matters most in any case is playing condition (you'll need to spend more to get it into top shape) and how well it plays/sounds. I realize you can't play test it, but at that price if you don't like it, you can easily sell it on. I bet it will be a very good horn, though!
    good advice & I agree. It's how it plays & sounds. $4000 is a good price for a VI tenor these days if it's any good at all.

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