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    Forum Contributor 2011 Uwe Steinmetz's Avatar
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    I found this in a saxshop in Berlin, Germany.
    A Chinese Copy of a SML Gold Medal.
    In unplayble condition and besides the nice looks quite a sloppy mechanic.
    Has anyone seen something like this?

    The best indication that even in the saxophone-copy business people discover the quality of SMLs!

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    Wow, they copied the look of an SML, all right. The keywork looks crude, even in your smallish pics. I'm not surprised it would be unplayable, even if it's brand new.

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    See Saxpics on Heimer and Parker: http://www.saxpics.com/?v=mod&modID=73

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    Crudely intriguing!
    I see they've just used the now bog-standard VI style tri-footed bell-guard instead of the quad-footed SML bell-guard.
    So they're not really trying are they?

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    Looks like the Windsor we have over hear which is rubbish.

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    these Chinese SML copies are rather old news

    that’s what the old SML director, Roland Miane, had to say about these (also published on Saxpics as well as on SOTW in 2003)

    http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthr...ll=1#post44452

    Back in 2003, a Taiwanese/Chinese company began selling SML-labeled horns. The horns were definitely not made with SML tooling of any kind and looked very similar to other Chinese junk horns, such as the Swallow.
    The conclusion of the story comes from Roland Miane, the sales manager of the current SML-Marigaux company:
    SML Strasser-Marigaux is an European musical instruments distributor member of the German group JA-Musik. Under the SML holding, we [have] two French instrument factories: Marigaux (Oboes) in Normandy and Antoine-Courtois (Brass) in Amboise. SML still being in Paris at the famous adress 144 Bld de La Villette. [At the] SML [location] we have the offices, the stock, the show room and the repair shop for oboe, sax, flutes and brasswind instruments.
    The T400 is not an SML[-made] saxophone!!!! It's a Chinese "instrument" engraved without any authorization from our side. We brought an action against the company [making these horns]. We will never engrave "SML" on an import instrument.

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    Merci Milandro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dexdex View Post
    Merci Milandro.
    il n'y a pas de quoi mon ami!

    Perhaps interesting to you and other people as well it that SML seems to have undergone some changes lately, and Roland Miane (whom I’ve met a couple of times, a very nice fellow) doesn’t seem to be in charge of the company which has been, I think, split and sold to different buyers. The site is now liked to the one of www.laboitenoiredumusicien.com. SML was owning several musical instruments companies and some chain of musical instruments shops in France.
    They also owned Marigaux (now still at the old address at Rue de la Villette in Paris) and B&S, they were also the >European distributors for Yanagisawa.

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