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    Default How to say "Au Privave"

    All the jazzers I've been around have always pronounced this song "Oh Prih-voh", however just recently I asked a native French girl how it's said in French, and she replied "Oh Pree-vahv" with a slight roll on the R. As for what it means, she's not quite sure, anyone happen to know? I think it means 'like a bar'.
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    Au means "in".
    Privave, I don't know. Maybe "private"?

    I've always said it "aw-prih-vahv".

    This basr player at my school takes French, and he told me one time that it was pronounced the way that French girl said it (in your post).
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    When I lived in Oklahoma it was like "How Pry-vayv" , y'all.
    But then, the way those guys could pick, they could pronounce it any way they de-zarred.

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    I don't think that "Privave" is a word (I couldn't find it in any of my French dictionaries) Perhaps it was the name of a place such as a café, lounge or night club. In this context "Au Privave" would stand for "At the Privave"
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    and would be pronounced "Oh pre-VAHV"

    almost like "Oprah vahv"
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    I've heard oh-pry-vahv but also oh-pry-vave with an 'A' like in wave.

    I never thought 'privave' was a real french word (based on my 2 years of high school french where I mostly napped).

    A did a bit of internet research and found a the site called worldreference.com that has several translators. Attempting a french to english translation of 'privave' will get you a 'We found no English translation for 'privave' in our French to English Dictionary.' message. English to french on private gets you privé.

    Maybe we could discuss how to pronounce Klact-oveeseds-tene
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    I've always assumed it was a made-up word that sounded French just as Klact-oveeseds-tene was made up to sound Swedish (so Parker thought). I think he was more successful with Au Privave.

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    It is indeed pronounced "oh preeVAHV," and no, privave is not a real word.

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    Wow. Am I getting in on this late, or what?

    I would guess the title was wordplay (which Bird did all the time) regarding a member of his family (take Laird Baird, it's literally "Layered Baird" his son's name seems to be wordplay from his own moniker, "Bird").

    Probably relating to his late daughter, Pree. If he were inclined to the obvious, it might be Au Privive. He was not so inclined.

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    On another site a Frenchman posted the following:

    I've always heard that it's a phonetic mis-transformation of the french "Après Vous" (like "After you" I guess), that you say when holding a door for someone, from a time CP was playing France.

    which was followed by:

    That makes sense, because Max Roach recorded the tune in the '50s as "Apres Vous."

    Nice thread revival

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    Considering this is your first post, I'd say you're real late. Welcome to SOTW!

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    Wow. Am I getting in on this late, or what?

    I would guess the title was wordplay (which Bird did all the time) regarding a member of his family (take Laird Baird, it's literally "Layered Baird" his son's name seems to be wordplay from his own moniker, "Bird").

    Probably relating to his late daughter, Pree. If he were inclined to the obvious, it might be Au Privive. He was not so inclined.

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    A native speaker of French would pronounce it something like "oh pree-vahv" but since it's not a real word in French, you can pronounce it any way you want and nobody can say you're wrong. However, as kcp said, if it's referring to a place called Privave and meaning "at the Privave" then you would pronounce the word as the French would.
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    I heard an interview with Bird somewhere and the interviewer asked him where he got the names to his tunes. He replied (I'm paraphrasing a bit because I don't remember the exact wording): "A lot of the tunes we came up with and played in the studio had no name at the time. We just recorded them and then they'd name them after we left the studio."

    I don't know if that was the case with this tune, but it might have been.

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    Fools! It's not French at all, but Parker's transliteration from the Old Sumerian for "Where's my fix." It should, of course, be pronounced (approximately) "α’Owh Préfaafu".

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    Oy vay!

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    I wonder if any of you guys can pronounce that "r" the way the French do :>




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    anybody else think "Ah Leu Cha" is "I love you" in Parker-speak ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ismail View Post
    I wonder if any of you guys can pronounce that "r" the way the French do :>




    Now I am visualizing your attempts to do so.
    Ha!
    I can but you better do not stand too close if I have just eaten something when I do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milandro View Post
    I can but you better do not stand too close if I have just eaten something when I do that!
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    well, try pronouncing " CH " or a "G" in Dutch or " H" or "CH" in Hebrew.........

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