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    Default Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    http://forum.saxontheweb.net/attachm...chmentid=30270

    Engraved as a Tru-Tone the soldered taper top tone holes suggest Martin. What do you all think? Nice horn, but a beast to keep polished.

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    Default Re: Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    They don't look like Martin toneholes to me but I'd need a better pic to be sure.

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    Default Re: Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    http://forum.saxontheweb.net/attachm...chmentid=30278
    Not all of the tone holes have the same bevel and some do not appear to have any bevel at all, although the majority do. I have worked on several older Bueschers with soldered tone holes, but I do not remember any of the being beveled.

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    Default Re: Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    No. This is a pretty early Buescher with beveled tone holes. 1920 or earlier horn, keyed to Eb. Bueschers had soldered and beveled tone holes early in the 1900's and then stopped in favor of drawn tone-holes in the late teens, early 20's.

    It's an old girl for sure, but to me it reeks of Buescher.
    1926 Buescher True Tone Series III Gold Plated Soprano -- Morgan Vintage 6
    1936 Buescher Custom Built Bare Brass Baritone -- Strathon 8*
    1938 Buescher Aristocrat "Custom Built" Gold Plated Baritone -- Strathon 8*
    1939 Buescher Aristocrat Silver Plated Series I Alto -- Ishimori Traditional Jazz 7, TW Durga 8
    1947 Buescher 400 B-11 "Top Hat & Cane" Bare Brass Tenor -- TW Durga 8
    1949 Buescher Aristocrat "Big B" Lacquer Alto -- Ishimori Traditional Jazz 7
    1949 Buescher Aristocrat Gold Plated "Big B" Tenor -- TW Durga 8
    1980-something Yamaha YBS-61 Baritone -- Strathon 8*



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    Default Re: Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    Thanks. She is old for sure, serial number 23xxx.

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    Default Re: Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    Yeah, that puts it about 1914. Series 1a, according to Saxpics. Unfortunately, they don't have any pics of 1914 baris up there. Perhaps yours could be the first?
    1926 Buescher True Tone Series III Gold Plated Soprano -- Morgan Vintage 6
    1936 Buescher Custom Built Bare Brass Baritone -- Strathon 8*
    1938 Buescher Aristocrat "Custom Built" Gold Plated Baritone -- Strathon 8*
    1939 Buescher Aristocrat Silver Plated Series I Alto -- Ishimori Traditional Jazz 7, TW Durga 8
    1947 Buescher 400 B-11 "Top Hat & Cane" Bare Brass Tenor -- TW Durga 8
    1949 Buescher Aristocrat "Big B" Lacquer Alto -- Ishimori Traditional Jazz 7
    1949 Buescher Aristocrat Gold Plated "Big B" Tenor -- TW Durga 8
    1980-something Yamaha YBS-61 Baritone -- Strathon 8*



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    Default Re: Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    Actually I once worked on an old Buescher stencil Bari from the early 30's, engraved "Harwood"...and while its tube holes were drawn, its bell and bow holes were soldered....
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    Default Re: Is this Buescher really a Martin?

    I have a Conn Soprano that has drawn and rolled holes on the tube, drawn only on the bow and soldered on the bell.

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