Looks very Keilwerth to me.
Like a new king IV.
Is there any made in mark or other markings on it rather than the engraving?
actually the left hand plateau isn't and that makes me thing that it isn't a Keilwerth. It could easily be an Amati Toneking or a Kohlert.
From saxpics
".....Series IIIa: In 1956, an interesting horn shows up: the V. Kohlert & Sons model with a label on the back, that reads, "JGK: The Best in the World" and "Made in Czechoslovakia". It's an odd horn because it doesn't look like any other New King model. The reason for this is because I don't really believe it's a Keilwerth, but an Amati horn. Take a look at the below article regarding the Amati Toneking and my notes on the Kohlert page...."
FWIW, I mainly post on
my forum and come over here when I'm doing research on something specific and/or I'm doing what I'm doing right now: trying to upload pics and stuff to
my new pic gallery and I noted in my list of things to upload that I should check this thread. However, if someone asks for me to comment on something, I definitely will. Just PM me or e-mail thesaxinfo-at-gmail.com. If I don't respond, I probably either forgot about your e-mail or didn't get it.
It only took 1 year, 6 months for me to respond, this time. That's an improvement over 5 years, right?
I've had a lot more Keilwerth data given to me from Helen @
bassic-sax.info. It helps that she can read German, so she can get a lot more info a lot easier than I can about Germanic manufacturers. Anyhow, the biggest Keilwerth thing is probably Helen's info on the Amati Tonekings and the second biggest is her straightening out the mess that was
Dörfler & Jörka. We've also got 250ish JK horns between
Helen's,
my new galleries, and what I had on
saxpics.com, so we can do lots of comparing.
Remember that Amati Tonekings used Keilwerth serial numbers. That part hasn't changed. So, 123xx (1938) wouldn't fit for an Amati horn because Amati didn't exist. If you're going for Kohlert, you have to go post WWII, or you're talking about a horn from 1902 -- and the Hug obviously looks newer than that. Kohlert serial numbers have been proven quite stable and they do tend to follow
my chart, so you're looking at horns from 1954.
The Hug doesn't look like a 1954 Kohlert.
... And Musik Hug AG is and was a Keilwerth dealer
Anyhow, there were lot and lots and lots of Keilwerth models and stencils. Then you have Max Keilwerth, Kohlert, Dorfler & Jorka and lots of others that look quite similar. It's really easy to get them all confused. Hey, I found out today that Dörfler & Jörka did "make" some baritone saxophones, but the parts were supplied by a different company.
But the serial numbers will immediately tell you, "Not a Keilwerth."
Oh. It's been awhile since I've mentioned this. Please note that I haven't owned saxpics.com for years and I can't make changes to that website. If you have any questions about anything on my websites or saxophones in general, g'head and ask me. I still have archives of saxpics.com from when I owned it. I also have
several neglected blogs and the aforementioned newish picture gallery.
EDIT: Sorry. I should make this clear: I've done a lot of streamlining of how to identify JK horns, especially after I was able to determine that the "Modell" numbers (sometimes in Roman numerals, sometimes in standard) on older JKs referred to finish and/or keywork. That's more for me to keep a more organized picture gallery than anything else. If you go on Helen's website, she gets more into the King/New King/Toneking breakdown and their respective Special an Exclusiv(e) models.