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    Quote Originally Posted by neilangierof View Post
    Grats! As Turnaround would say: "You must have developed a Hercules pinky!"
    Series one is not so bad. I had an alto. What a tone!!! It's the series II that will turn your pinky into a thumb after some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnaround View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by neilangierof View Post
    Grats! As Turnaround would say: "You must have developed a Hercules pinky!"
    Series one is not so bad. I had an alto. What a tone!!! It's the series II that will turn your pinky into a thumb after some time.
    I think you mean series Ia (transitional series), as called on Saxpics.
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    Hey guess what. I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet but the Buescher TH&C's have the backward hinged G# cluster key too! (or at least the one I own)

    Even more surprising is the fact that it actually feels much better than the backward G#'s on the transitional Super 20's! I think it could have something to do with the hinge or even its position/shape. However, I'm sure it wouldn't be very difficult to 'master the cluster' on the Super 20's if you set your mind (and pinky) to it.
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    I just got some pictures up of my 292,XXX Super 20.
    The last owner thought it was a re-laq.... I am not sure.
    Let me know what you think.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2864494...7620281817265/

    Thanks ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilangierof View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Turnaround View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by neilangierof View Post
    Grats! As Turnaround would say: "You must have developed a Hercules pinky!"
    Series one is not so bad. I had an alto. What a tone!!! It's the series II that will turn your pinky into a thumb after some time.
    I think you mean series Ia (transitional series), as called on Saxpics.
    You might be right.

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    Also, I finally found my folder of Silversonic pictures. Matching pair of Anniversary Models.

    These are the Creme-de-la-creme of Super 20s IMO.

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    Great looking horns!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzFox View Post
    I just got some pictures up of my 292,XXX Super 20.
    The last owner thought it was a re-laq.... I am not sure.
    Let me know what you think.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2864494...7620281817265/

    Thanks ^^
    looks original to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by milandro View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazzFox View Post
    I just got some pictures up of my 292,XXX Super 20.
    The last owner thought it was a re-laq.... I am not sure.
    Let me know what you think.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2864494...7620281817265/

    Thanks ^^
    looks original to me
    It looks original, but there are also signs of it being relacquered. See the way the lacquer wears off over the engraving? In any case, even if it was relacquered, it was done very well. Only it looks like it could have been maintained a little better after the relac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnaround View Post
    Also, I finally found my folder of Silversonic pictures. Matching pair of Anniversary Models.

    These are the Creme-de-la-creme of Super 20s IMO.
    Wow. Have you had the chance/honour of playing them? It would be just like putting your lips on Megan Fox.
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    They are beautiful. I have no problems with the C sharp. As I say it's the same as my V1 sop and nino and I really wouldn't have noticed. This horn is also very well set up. The sound and response is what blows me away. My friend on here Byas a Drink has a 299... and a much later horn and he encouraged me to try the 297...He much prefers the sound of the pre 305...horns and described it as dark with a real cutting quality..he also added it was a "real jazz horn" and he's right. He also thought the resonance and intonation is superior on the earlier horns.
    As I said I was unprepared for the " Superstuff" after owning a Series 3 that
    my V1 slaughtered in every department but this horn is something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnaround View Post
    Also, I finally found my folder of Silversonic pictures. Matching pair of Anniversary Models.

    These are the Creme-de-la-creme of Super 20s IMO.
    Wow!...
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    beauties!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnaround View Post
    Also, I finally found my folder of Silversonic pictures. Matching pair of Anniversary Models.

    These are the Creme-de-la-creme of Super 20s IMO.
    Pure beauty, I love these Saxes. Makes mine look tatty,,but tatty is cool to.

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    I just stumbled into the club, and boy am I glad I did. I'm constantly surfing L.A. craigslist for tenors, I found a dude selling a 427xxx eastlake silver neck super 20 for $1000 (a typo??) and I hounded him for weeks until he finally got back to me. He had it shipped from Florida where he bought it in 1999 from his high school band teacher, who owned it since it since its birth in ~1966-7. Apparently 15 people contacted him the first day of the listing, but I was first!! YES!!!!!!

    It's a really clean relac, though the engraving is somewhat soft (from buffing or thick lacquer? i dunno), but it does play like a winner. I use hr link 6* with RJS 2H reeds and the response is effortless despite the 15 year old pads and lack of TLC. Compared to my yamaha 62II, the altissimo and palm keys notes leap out without even trying. wow.

    It's my 4th sax and first vintage tenor, and I am so bloody happy I made this impulse buy, at a steal no less. The last owner seemingly never swabbed it (other than pad saver) and the inside of the sterling neck was totally coated with black mildewy crap. I cringed when I saw he kept his C* mouthpiece permanently fastened with reed and rovner lig scratching and denting against the neck in the neck bag, what an a**. When I finally swabbed the body some pieces of dead grass came out. I'm so glad I rescued her...

    I'm currently investigating some overhaul options to fix the neck dents and repad. can I get a roll call on what you all prefer for pads and resonators? tenor or alto.

    I'm leaning towards sarge's vintage premium rebuild with saxgourmet pads and flat seamless resos. it currently has plastic domes and I think it could use a little bit more edge. Downside is wwsax waitlist is till october. I've heard music medic does good work and uses newest materials, may go with them. Horn improvement is a couple hours away, will consider them if the price is reasonable compared to shipping out of state.

    Also, I'm not sure how to describe my ideal action setup, since I've only played newer horns, sharp and fast or as close to the original setup as possible...?

    I'll post some pics when I get a chance, pre-and post rebuild.

    THANKS!!

    PS. anyone in the market for a Yamaha 62II tenor? haha
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    pre-overhaul. Best thousand bucks I've ever spent, still don't believe it's mine. I can't stop staring...
    '67 King Super 20 Tenor 427xxx ~ '38 Conn 26M VIII alto 284xxx NY neck ~ '19 Buescher C soprano
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    Here's mine, a 338,XXXish brass bell, silver neck, full pearled beauty.


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    well, you are two lucky B******S! the silver neck alone costed me more!

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    Here's a pic of my old horn. 415XXX. One of the last made in Cleveland.



    I replaced it with this.


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    On behalf of all members of the Super 20 Fan Club I would like to extend my sincerest condolences . Clearly, desperate times must have called for such desperate measures . At the same time, however, I would like to compliment you in that you chose to downgrade to something other than Selmer .

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