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    Listening to the 70's station on satellite radio, I was reminded of a very bad tune with a very good sax solo. Which made me wonder, what other lost bad songs have we forgotten that have great sax work on them?

    I'll start:

    Ariel - Dean Friedman (sax at 2:25)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFW9jCFml4
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    Default Re: The Best Sax Solos of Really Bad Tunes

    Quote Originally Posted by Yofis View Post
    Listening to the 70's station on satellite radio, I was reminded of a very bad tune with a very good sax solo. Which made me wonder, what other lost bad songs have we forgotten that have great sax work on them?

    I'll start:

    Ariel - Dean Friedman (sax at 2:25)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFW9jCFml4
    good start ,,yeah thats a bad tune,,drrr but the solos very good!...thank heavens for that!
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    Absolutely RIPPIN tenor solo. Seriously Yofis nails it. Mediochre at best tune, with a baaaaadass tenor solo in the middle worth listening to. Who IS that guy? I'll have one of whatever he"s having.
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    Yea good solo...but mediocre tune??? I was wondering if Dean Friedman received any jail time for recording that! The lyrics were hilarious though!
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    According to John Laughter's History of Top 40 Sax Solos, that's George Young on tenor.
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    No question the beginning of Baker's Street (the saxophone version obviously) is an amazing sole but the rest of the songs Mediocre at best.

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    Do You Think I'm Sexy? by Rod Stewart. The only thing that makes the song listenable is the sax!
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    Why would I remember a sax solo in a lousy tune?

    Answer: Sax solos can't save sucky tunes. No way, no how.
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    Heard another one today:

    Hey Babe, What Would You Say? (1972) by Hurricane Smith

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrfZ...eature=related

    who's the sax player on this Tonight Show clip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hakukani View Post
    Answer: Sax solos can't save sucky tunes. No way, no how.
    If you're restricting it to solos (great solo, but the rest of the tune sucks), I agree. But I do think a sucky tune can be made to sound good, or even great, in rare cases by a great jazz ensemble. Miles did a good version of "Surrey with the Finge on Top." My all time favorite sucky tune, turned great is "I'm an Old Cow Hand," by Sonny Rollins:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG4cSD9Ac6M

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    Default Re: The Best Sax Solos of Really Bad Tunes

    Sucky tune: Starburst by Spyro Gyra

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrCHrcK7fp8

    Guess who solos? The solo starts at 3:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yofis View Post
    Heard another one today:

    Hey Babe, What Would You Say? (1972) by Hurricane Smith

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrfZ...eature=related

    who's the sax player on this Tonight Show clip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    If you're restricting it to solos (great solo, but the rest of the tune sucks), I agree. But I do think a sucky tune can be made to sound good, or even great, in rare cases by a great jazz ensemble. Miles did a good version of "Surrey with the Finge on Top." My all time favorite sucky tune, turned great is "I'm an Old Cow Hand," by Sonny Rollins:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG4cSD9Ac6M
    Surrey with the Fringe on Top is NOT on my list of sucky tunes. If you want sucky Rodgers and Hammerstein songs, you have to go to the flops (like 'Allegro'), not classics like 'Oklahoma'.

    As a fan of kitch, I love 'I'm an Old Cow Hand', too.
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    Default Re: The Best Sax Solos of Really Bad Tunes

    Quote Originally Posted by Yofis View Post
    Listening to the 70's station on satellite radio, I was reminded of a very bad tune with a very good sax solo. Which made me wonder, what other lost bad songs have we forgotten that have great sax work on them?

    I'll start:

    Ariel - Dean Friedman (sax at 2:25)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFW9jCFml4
    Damn, no joke! That sax solo comes out of nowhere like WHAM!!! Funny song. I think (hope) it was written in a kitschy "so bad, it's good" spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Sucky tune: Starburst by Spyro Gyra

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrCHrcK7fp8

    Guess who solos? The solo starts at 3:17.
    Hey, cool! I remember totally tripping out on that solo. At the time, the band I was with was doing a bunch of Spyro Gyra (yes, odd for a bunch of kids in high school in the 80's playing weddings), and this was one of the songs we were doing. I never clued in who it was, but now it makes all kinds of sense.
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    who's the sax player on this Tonight Show clip?
    OH, BABE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?-HURRICANE SMITH-FRANKIE HARDCASTLE-ALTO

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    “Thanks for your e-mail via the Breakfast room regarding my father Frankie Hardcastle. Yes you have the correct person he did play on “Oh! Babe” as well as “Who Was It.”

    As for a biography I have no objection to you using the information on http:/myloveofmusic.blogspot.com if you click on the label Frank Hardcastle you will find a potted history of him there. If you need any more let me know.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by hakukani View Post
    Surrey with the Fringe on Top is NOT on my list of sucky tunes. If you want sucky Rodgers and Hammerstein songs, you have to go to the flops (like 'Allegro'), not classics like 'Oklahoma'.

    As a fan of kitch, I love 'I'm an Old Cow Hand', too.
    Yeah, I knew it would be a push to call "Surrey" a sucky tune. I think I got a bit off from what Yofis is talking about. My examples are more in line with how a great jazz musician can take any tune and turn it into something special.

    My problem is I can't listen to a truly sucky tune long enough to get to the sax solo, assuming there is one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SactoPete View Post
    Hey, cool! I remember totally tripping out on that solo. At the time, the band I was with was doing a bunch of Spyro Gyra (yes, odd for a bunch of kids in high school in the 80's playing weddings), and this was one of the songs we were doing. I never clued in who it was, but now it makes all kinds of sense.
    I think to be a truly "Really Bad Tune" it must have vocals..there is really no other instrument that can have so many different variations of terrible like the human voice. But I must admit, the chord structure and the little intermediate guitar parts were pretty bad.

    Sorry that I am not an expert on famous players' sounds and styles...who is the sax player on Starburst?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzcat58 View Post
    good start ,,yeah thats a bad tune,,drrr but the solos very good!...thank heavens for that!
    Wow, very funny tune. A New Yorkers version of a country song. It was rarely if ever played here in God's Real South. I'm sure the humor would have been completely lost on most of us. I actually appreciated the song, great sax solo or not.
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    Lennon had a pop hit back in '74 with Elton John on back-up vocals called "Whatever Gets You Through the Night." That song had a fingernails-on-chalkboard effect on me, though obviously some people liked it, since it went to the top of the charts.

    It did have a smokin' sax solo on it though. I just looked it up and the player was named Bobby Keyes, which is not a name familiar to me.
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