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    Default It's not a Holton, or is it?

    This nice fellow thinks his Gretsch Commander was made by Frank Holton, but I don't think so. I see more Beuscher cues on this puppy than Holton. It's a beauty in a dinosaurish sort of way, with the long-faded-to-brass lacquer and art deco styling.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Saxophon...d=p3286.c0.m14

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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    G# shape and brown rollesr seem to be Buescher to me!

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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    Not a Holton. Either a Buescher as Bruce says, or maybe something French? (Didn't Gretsch use French and/or Italian stencils?) I think the confusion comes from the fact that Gretsch and Holton were both located in Elkhorn.

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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    Gretsch was also a USA distributer for Couesnon saxes. Some of the cases are really cool.
    Life is too short for long tones

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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    I opt for European, as I have never seen a low C cage like that on a US built horn. Also, the fork F key is NOT Holton. Just another alto in the great heap of 1920s-30s saxophones. A music store might offer $25.00 for it, repair it and rent it for $150.00 per year until it dies tragically on parking lot pavement during football band practice. Sorry, the awful Summer weather is taking a toll on my outlook.
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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    that certainly does not look like any of the holtons that i own.
    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one, unless i am practicing then all bets are off.

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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    In addition to Gretsch saxophones made by Buescher (the one above) I've seen some made by Martin, Couturier and York.
    At the beginning thirties there had been some COLLEGIATE II stencilled by Gretsch, too. Those are very rare.
    Couturier straight soprano > Claude Lakey 7* > Vandoren java / marca jazz 2.0
    Couturier alto > Jody Jazz esp 8 > m.a.r.c.a. jazz 2.0
    Couturier tenor> Jody Jazz esp 7* > m.a.r.c.a jazz 2.5


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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by geauxsax View Post
    I think the confusion comes from the fact that Gretsch and Holton were both located in Elkhorn.
    I may have misspoke: Not sure now if it was Gretsch or Getzen located in Elkhorn.

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    Default Re: It's not a Holton, or is it?

    Getzen and DEG are in Elkhorn.

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