Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

**A Greene** · 02-20-2009, 12:54 AM

I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

I'm looking for the following:

Brecker Model (The one he played)
Brecker II
Crescent
Tranditional

Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.

**Finnerski** · 02-20-2009, 01:03 AM

The Crescent is at about .108". That is the only one out of that bunch that I know.

**Nefertiti** · 02-20-2009, 01:10 AM

I thought I heard Breckers piece was around a .115. I sent Dave Jary a piece back in August. I'm interested to see what he can do with it.

**Twombles62** · 02-20-2009, 01:59 AM

LT MBIIs can measure between about .114 to .117 I believe.

**Phil Barone** · 02-20-2009, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by A Greene

I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

I'm looking for the following:

Brecker Model (The one he played)
Brecker II
Crescent
Tranditional

Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.

I measured Mike's piece at .112. The Brecker II's were around .115, Cresent's ere the most closed at around .095-.100 and the Traditionals were about .110.

**A Greene** · 02-20-2009, 02:11 AM

Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.

**Phil Barone** · 02-20-2009, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by A Greene

Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.

Why? Maybe a Jumbo Java would do the job. Phil

**themacintrasher** · 02-20-2009, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Phil Barone

Originally Posted by A Greene

Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.

Why? Maybe a Jumbo Java would do the job. Phil

http://www.saxontheweb.net/vbulletin...d.php?t=105805
That's why

**JB4sax** · 02-20-2009, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by themacintrasher

Originally Posted by Phil Barone

Originally Posted by A Greene

Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.

Why? Maybe a Jumbo Java would do the job. Phil

http://www.saxontheweb.net/vbulletin...d.php?t=105805
That's why

A Jumbo Java IS a Hard Rubber piece!

**wersax** · 02-20-2009, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by A Greene

I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

I'm looking for the following:

Brecker Model (The one he played)
Brecker II
Crescent
Tranditional

Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.

The MB's that I've played and had measured were as open as .119 and as closed as .112; the MB II's were in the same range, too. Supposedly the MB I's were .115ish and the MB II's were .117ish. I'm referring to the hand made models, not the LT's.
Remember, a 1000th of an inch is something like the thickness of a hair. Tiny stuff. The differences between reeds is more significant than the difference between a few 1000ths in tip opening. If you're in the 8 to 8* range you're in the ballpark..........Daryl

**jazzsax86** · 02-20-2009, 05:13 AM

You probably should NOT ask him anytime soon (RIP Gerry Niewood), but Adam Niewood knows the measurements of Brecker's actual mouthpiece. He worked with him intensely for a couple months near the end of Brecker's life. He has my guardala in NYC with him, and was adjusting it to those specs.

**hakukani** · 02-20-2009, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by wersax

Originally Posted by A Greene

I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

I'm looking for the following:

Brecker Model (The one he played)
Brecker II
Crescent
Tranditional

Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.

The MB's that I've played and had measured were as open as .119 and as closed as .112; the MB II's were in the same range, too. Supposedly the MB I's were .115ish and the MB II's were .117ish. I'm referring to the hand made models, not the LT's.
Remember, a 1000th of an inch is something like the thickness of a hair. Tiny stuff. The differences between reeds is more significant than the difference between a few 1000ths in tip opening. If you're in the 8 to 8* range you're in the ballpark..........Daryl

Depends on the coarseness of the hair.

**wersax** · 02-20-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by hakukani

Originally Posted by wersax

Originally Posted by A Greene

I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

I'm looking for the following:

Brecker Model (The one he played)
Brecker II
Crescent
Tranditional

Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.

The MB's that I've played and had measured were as open as .119 and as closed as .112; the MB II's were in the same range, too. Supposedly the MB I's were .115ish and the MB II's were .117ish. I'm referring to the hand made models, not the LT's.
Remember, a 1000th of an inch is something like the thickness of a hair. Tiny stuff. The differences between reeds is more significant than the difference between a few 1000ths in tip opening. If you're in the 8 to 8* range you're in the ballpark..........Daryl

Depends on the coarseness of the hair.

I am not going there! Let's just say human, north of the face

**Dr_sax** · 02-20-2009, 03:02 PM

My MB is a .112 and a wonderful playing piece.

**10mfan** · 02-20-2009, 03:49 PM

The Breckers are almost always either a .112 or .115.

Dave did adjust pieces for buyers that came into his shop, so you will definitely see one somewhere that measures .107, and another one somehere that measures .120.

However, the TYPICAL measurements were .112 for the Brecker 1's and .115 for the MB 2's.

I have owned tons of these, and I measure them all when they come in here.