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    Default Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

    I'm looking for the following:

    Brecker Model (The one he played)
    Brecker II
    Crescent
    Tranditional

    Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    The Crescent is at about .108". That is the only one out of that bunch that I know.
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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    I thought I heard Breckers piece was around a .115. I sent Dave Jary a piece back in August. I'm interested to see what he can do with it.

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    LT MBIIs can measure between about .114 to .117 I believe.
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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Greene View Post
    I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

    I'm looking for the following:

    Brecker Model (The one he played)
    Brecker II
    Crescent
    Tranditional

    Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.
    I measured Mike's piece at .112. The Brecker II's were around .115, Cresent's ere the most closed at around .095-.100 and the Traditionals were about .110.

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.

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    Altos - '66 Mark VI w/Meyer 6M/Caravan
    Soprano - JDS (No Name from Mystery Country) w/Tenney Tone Edge 6
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    Clarinet - '68 Buffet R13 w/B45

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Greene View Post
    Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.
    Why? Maybe a Jumbo Java would do the job. Phil

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Barone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A Greene View Post
    Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.
    Why? Maybe a Jumbo Java would do the job. Phil
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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Barone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A Greene View Post
    Phil, One of your Fusion Pieces is inspiring my search. I need that mouthpiece in a Hard Rubber (Tone Edge Like) format.
    Why? Maybe a Jumbo Java would do the job. Phil
    http://www.saxontheweb.net/vbulletin...d.php?t=105805
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    A Jumbo Java IS a Hard Rubber piece!

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    Quote Originally Posted by A Greene View Post
    I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

    I'm looking for the following:

    Brecker Model (The one he played)
    Brecker II
    Crescent
    Tranditional

    Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.
    The MB's that I've played and had measured were as open as .119 and as closed as .112; the MB II's were in the same range, too. Supposedly the MB I's were .115ish and the MB II's were .117ish. I'm referring to the hand made models, not the LT's.
    Remember, a 1000th of an inch is something like the thickness of a hair. Tiny stuff. The differences between reeds is more significant than the difference between a few 1000ths in tip opening. If you're in the 8 to 8* range you're in the ballpark..........Daryl
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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    You probably should NOT ask him anytime soon (RIP Gerry Niewood), but Adam Niewood knows the measurements of Brecker's actual mouthpiece. He worked with him intensely for a couple months near the end of Brecker's life. He has my guardala in NYC with him, and was adjusting it to those specs.

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    Quote Originally Posted by wersax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A Greene View Post
    I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

    I'm looking for the following:

    Brecker Model (The one he played)
    Brecker II
    Crescent
    Tranditional

    Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.
    The MB's that I've played and had measured were as open as .119 and as closed as .112; the MB II's were in the same range, too. Supposedly the MB I's were .115ish and the MB II's were .117ish. I'm referring to the hand made models, not the LT's.
    Remember, a 1000th of an inch is something like the thickness of a hair. Tiny stuff. The differences between reeds is more significant than the difference between a few 1000ths in tip opening. If you're in the 8 to 8* range you're in the ballpark..........Daryl
    Depends on the coarseness of the hair.
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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    Quote Originally Posted by hakukani View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wersax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by A Greene View Post
    I think I'm going to have Dave Jary make a mouthpiece that will fit my unique playing needs. Basically a Tone Edge body with guts of a Guardala. I'm having difficulty finding tip measurements for the Guardala Models.

    I'm looking for the following:

    Brecker Model (The one he played)
    Brecker II
    Crescent
    Tranditional

    Please NO comments about "You should be able to may blah blah sound on anything" I'm looking for a very specific comfort level while also getting the sound in my head.
    The MB's that I've played and had measured were as open as .119 and as closed as .112; the MB II's were in the same range, too. Supposedly the MB I's were .115ish and the MB II's were .117ish. I'm referring to the hand made models, not the LT's.
    Remember, a 1000th of an inch is something like the thickness of a hair. Tiny stuff. The differences between reeds is more significant than the difference between a few 1000ths in tip opening. If you're in the 8 to 8* range you're in the ballpark..........Daryl
    Depends on the coarseness of the hair.
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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    My MB is a .112 and a wonderful playing piece.

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    The Breckers are almost always either a .112 or .115.

    Dave did adjust pieces for buyers that came into his shop, so you will definitely see one somewhere that measures .107, and another one somehere that measures .120.

    However, the TYPICAL measurements were .112 for the Brecker 1's and .115 for the MB 2's.

    I have owned tons of these, and I measure them all when they come in here.

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    Default Re: Guardala Brecker Model Tip Measure request?

    The Crescent LTs do run around .107-108". I have seen two handmade: a .108" and a .100".

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