Any Dave Guardala Update??????

[Joe Jazz]

Dude, you aren't listening....he's not in Germany, he's in Florida working at Moe's stuffing burritos with LT mpc's!

[nitrosax]

Inconshiibable!!!!

[Joe Jazz]

Hey, a guy's gotta make a living!

[saxboy]

Hey Joe Jazz, If I can personally answer any question you might have I would love too. The SCAMs are real. I talked with a guy from the US that lost 40 grand to an even longer version of the same basic Guardala scam. Guardala even tried to sell him his knowledge of designing Saxes and mouthpieces at 30,000 Euros, but he passed on that.

I want to be clear, if somehow the site is unclear - Dave Guardala is not to be trusted and has defrauded friends and business acquaintances of an estimated 450 grand so far. This is very real and very sad. I'm just trying to get the word out - STAY AWAY FROM GUARDALA! (Or tie him up and call me! I can arrange pick up.)

SAXBOY

IF I can clear anything up for you, email me at gvsaxboy@aol.com

[Rackety Sax]

I don't get it. Greg seems to be saying on one page that he wasn't ripped off by Dave, but also seems to indicate that in order to bring people forward who may have been he was going to say on another page that he had been ripped off and wants to warn everyone.......I have great respect for Greg but am a tad confused by his efforts .........BTW I'm still thinking about putting the burrito on ebay.....did I mention I think I can see the image of DG's face in the rice and beans that came with it?

Yeah, I think the site is slightly confusing. I take it the home page is sort of background to Greg's initial contact with Dave years ago. It's heading includes the words "scams" and "fraud" but that part doesn't say anything about scams. I take it it's just there for background to the whole story.

The scam is described in great detail under the "My Guardala Scam" button.

Greg, you may want to put your name under the home page article to make clear that story is from you and add a paragraph explaining that's it background to the scam and include a link to details of the scam. Just a suggestion.

That's truly a horror story, but I'm confused by reaction of the police. Yes you have grounds to go after him in court, but all kinds of "business disputes" are in fact crimes - if I walked out of a supermarket with an unpaid roll of toilet paper would the police tell the store owner they had to sue me? Guardala has committed fraud and while I can imagine there being an issue of jurisdiction I sure wouldn't let things stop with the lame line those cops gave you. Perhaps you need to drop in on the local District Attorney and see if they can offer any suggestions on which crime agency would take responsible for investigating this case.

At any rate, best wishes to you as you recover from this nightmare.

[J.Max]

I have heard crazy rumors about Guardala since the early 90s, but nothing like this. (Sidenote: Did he really live in Dave Liebman's basement for a while?) I hope you get at least some of your money back.

[Selmer's_glu]

It seems by Greg's article that Dave is in Greece---of was it Joe Jazz's burrito swimming in grease...not sure, I'm confused.

Well I guess one benefit of being broke, is not having anything to be scammed out of

[Phil Barone]

Everything aside, I don't for the life of me see what people like about them. Everyone sounds very much alike on them and they're whiney. If you guys want one I'll make it. I'll need twenty orders up front and paid for. Phil

[Fell Boyzs]

Everything aside, I don't for the life of me see what people like about them. Everyone sounds very much alike on them and they're whiney. If you guys want one I'll make it. I'll need twenty orders up front and paid for. Phil

lol

NO, Phil, NOOOoooooooooooooo!!!!

Why would you make a guardala copy, when you hate them? I hope it doesn't side line the piece you're making for me.

(please take this post with the notion of me being a little on the satyrical side)

-Zach

[Doug Lange]

Phil-
I'll take a couple! Can you modify it so it has a richer, fuller bottom and not so bright on top. I also want to be able to change my tone based on the tune because I play a variety of tonal colors.
;-)

[Phil Barone]

lol

NO, Phil, NOOOoooooooooooooo!!!!

Why would you make a guardala copy, when you hate them? I hope it doesn't side line the piece you're making for me.

(please take this post with the notion of me being a little on the satyrical side)

-Zach

Hey, if you guys want one I'll make them. Maybe I'm wrong about them but I just don't know anyone that uses them. They're okay for younger guys that need instant sound but man, they're whiney, buzzy, thin in the upper register, and buzzy. If you want though I'll make um. I guess I'll have to buy a Brecker I and make a mold. Phil

[Phil Barone]

Phil-
I'll take a couple! Can you modify it so it has a richer, fuller bottom and not so bright on top. I also want to be able to change my tone based on the tune because I play a variety of tonal colors.
;-)

Get a Hollywood.

[Smooth Sop Berator]

lol

NO, Phil, NOOOoooooooooooooo!!!!

Why would you make a guardala copy, when you hate them? I hope it doesn't side line the piece you're making for me.

(please take this post with the notion of me being a little on the satyrical side)

-Zach

You mean you're half goat? have a goatee?

[Tonehole]

Below is a email I received from Dave.
I was put in touch with Dave by a buyer at Long&McQuade. They were offered the deal and knew Dave on a personal level, business practice did not allow them to do a money transaction. They knew I do large mouthpiece deals and gave me Daves contact information.
It was a sweet deal but I explained to Dave the problems with getting $10,000.00 in cash from the bank without having the RCMP involved. There is a anti terrorist / drug law and all cash over $10,000.00 is tracked.
I still thought it was a real deal so I offered to fly to Germany and do bank transfers and hand the cash to Dave in person. Whats $800.00 airfare when you are passing of $15,000.00CDN with a potential pay out of around $70,000.00US! I told him he could ship the instruments and I would fly back with a suitcase full of mouthpieces!
He ranted that this was not the deal ... I hung up.

Dear &*(^%,
Below is a list of the horns and mouthpieces that are for sale:

1- Selmer Mark VI Alto sax, 77,000 series in orig. lacquer & condition, with case.
1- Selmer Mark VI Alto sax, 101,000 series in orig. lacquer & condition, with case.
1- Selmer Mark VI Tenor sax, 83,000 series in orig. lacquer & condition, with case.
1- Selmer Mark VI Soprano sax, 102,000 series with High F# in orig. gold plate & condition, with case.
7- Link Super Tone Master "double ring" metal Tenor mpcs, with serial #'s."7*, 8 & 8*"
6- Slant Link Tone Edge hard rubber Tenor mpcs. "7*, 8 & 8*"
6- Meyer Bros. New York hard rubber Alto mpcs. "6 , 7 & 8"s"
4- Berg Larsen stainless steel metal Tenor mpcs.
4- Berg Larsen hard rubber Tenor mpcs." Long Tables in .110+"
3- Berg Larsen hard rubber Alto mpcs.
3- Selmer hard rubber Soprano mpcs. "Soloists f,g,h on the table"
3- Selmer metal Soprano mpcs.

All mouthpieces are unplayed and in original condition and in their original boxes. All of the mouthpieces are vintage late 1950's-early 1960's. all of the instruments listed above are in unplayed original condition.

The amount for the entire collection listed above including shipping charges is EURO 7,900.00

The person that you need to send the money to is: WOLFGANG RAUSCH
Grosse Marktstr. 7
63065, Offenbach
Germany

Please send the first payment on Thursday by Moneygram.

After you send the payment please call me with all of the information as I need to have the complete address and phone number along with the 8 digit transfer number.

Please call me on Thursday on my cell phone 011-49-160-9222-5855.

Thank you very much for your prompt assistance with this matter.

When you get this email can you please call me to confirm that you have received this.

Sincerly yours,
David Guardala

[Joe Jazz]

whoa doggie!

[tjontheroad]

Please call me on Thursday on my cell phone 011-49-160-9222-5855.

Sincerly yours,
David Guardala[/B]

Alrighty! Lets all give DG a call and ask him how much for a vintage burrito. CASH DEAL ONLY

[gary]

Grag Vail?

Now's your chance, Dude. Or was your visit to SOTW just to blast Guardala and now you're gone?

[Joe Jazz]

Yo Phil- I just got off the phone with Dave(thanks tonehole for the #)and he said he doesn't know anyone who plays a Barone........guess that makes you even. Oh, he also said you should quit whining about his mouthpieces being whiney. I left out all the bad words of course............

[Selmer's_glu]

OK, everybody call the number and ask for Phil...or Sugal!!

[thehighend]

I received an email similar to Tonehole's today, from someone in Nigeria... hmmm.... maybe that was Dave Guardala, or perhaps just a copycap.