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Forum: Tone Producing

Embouchure, intonation, etc.

  1. Sticky Thread Sticky: Maintaining a fast airstream at low volumes

    I just don't get it! How do you keep your airstream fast and steady when playing at p or pp or ppp? Whenever I try to keep my air fast and consistent I play mf or f. I do push and support from my stomach, but I just don't understand the concept. Help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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  2. Thumbs up Sticky Thread Sticky: Tone Production

    I'm tired of mouthpiece makers lying to players telling them that they can get a potential customer to sound like someone, that's a bunch of BS. I'm laying out what I learned from Joe Allard, Herk Faranda, and Vick Morosco here and I’ll elaborate if some of you guys practice them and report back to...

    Started by Phil Barone, 02-07-2007 06:13 PM
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  3. Thumbs up Sticky Thread Sticky: Tone Production Part II By Phil Barone

    This is part II of the tone production exercises I learned from Joe Allard and Victor Morosco. I’ve also added the idea of purchasing a very large tip opening mouthpiece to warm up on to teach you to use your diaphragm. However, you can do more harm than good if you use a hard reed on a very open...

    Started by Phil Barone, 03-25-2007 06:03 AM
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  4. Sticky Thread Sticky: joe allard and tongue position

    just thought i'd post about this for people to read. i read too much here about mouth position and never about tongue so here it goes. this can improve your playing by leaps and bounds. think about how when you are at rest your tongue is along the roof of your mouth. relax and let your tongue...

    Started by garyjones, 04-25-2009 07:36 PM
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  1. Mouth Adjustments for different registers

    I've seen pretty much all of the premier players of today make allowances for the different registers - ie. taking more mouthpiece or rolling the lip out to allow more reed to vibrate with higher notes, while taking less or rolling the lip back for the lower notes. I've seen Chris Potter even...

    Started by BYOB, 07-23-2010 09:49 PM
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  2. High Notes Are Flat

    I've been playing alto sax for many years and while I am otherwise fairly proficient, I can't seem to play the upper register properly. Eb, E, and F come out extremely flat and awkward sounding and F# rarely comes out at all unless I slide up from F. I cannot get passed D without biting...

    Started by szreadick, 08-24-2010 07:26 AM
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  3. Size of a player - an issue in getting that "tone"

    wondering if the size of a person could have any impact on getting the desired tone. My kid is 5'2" and that is all she is gonna be. She was wondering if her lung size could be one of the "problems" in her getting/finding the tone she wants. I am not so sure that is a reason as there are small...

    Started by patton45, 08-31-2010 09:13 PM
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  4. Sticking Reed Tip Out

    On my alto saxophone, I push my reed a quarter of a cm past the mouthpiece tip. I do this because it makes my tone warm and darker. Will this hurt my progress?

    Started by Stradivarius, 08-27-2010 02:34 AM
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  5. EMBOUCHURE , INTONATION and HARMONICS by IVAN MEYER - LESSON VÍDEO FREE

    For you :) Thanks Ivan Meyer - Brasil

    Started by Ivan Meyer Brasil, 09-02-2010 06:41 AM
    embouchure high notes
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  6. Bright Sound

    First off I have done long tones for a while, about 10 yrs on and off (5 yrs if you add up all the time). Yet I can't get the sound I am looking for. I listen to the player that I want to sound like the most, but yet I seem very far away from it, my sound is a lot of darker.

    Started by iceman, 04-29-2010 11:17 PM
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  7. Middle C and middle D timbre problem.

    Hi i´m new here. And I´m sorry for my english. I´ve been playing sax for one year - and there is one issue I can not fix. The timbre of register played without using octave pad is just...almost completely different the the timbre of the one played with it. It can be well heard between...

    Started by dominik, 08-27-2010 10:42 AM
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  8. Tonguing

    K so I hope this is in the right place. Is there a saxophone equivilent to double and triple tonguing as done on brass instruments?? For years I've used my tongue as if it were the beak of a bird, pecking at the reed, one stroke at a time. I am quite quick with this but I have found a way to...

    Started by TheUCB, 08-16-2010 12:53 PM
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  9. Stuffy nose affects tone?

    90% of the time, my nasal passages are completely blocked up (I've had this problem for years), so I breathe through my mouth. I can breathe through my nose, but it is very labored and "sniffly". I was wondering - can having congested sinuses affect your saxophone tone?

    Started by idontknow1965, 08-11-2010 03:01 PM
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  10. How to sound like....?

    My band is playing Gordon Goodwin's Count Bubba and i cant figure out how to get that awesome sound their lead alto (or at least i think its their lead alto) has. especially during the sax solis... any tips? or super easy cure all secrets? EDIT: i should probably specify that im talking about...

    Started by Whyrusleeping, 05-28-2010 01:38 AM
    count bubba, gordon goodwin, tone
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  11. Help with "balkan tone" ..

    hi everybody this is my very first post,and I hope I can receive some help for the SOTW community.. any idea about which way to sound like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt72qQ-44QQ around 0.56 sec.. I went to many of their concerts,and it looks like there's nothing special about the sax...

    Started by drolky, 08-02-2010 11:12 AM
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  12. I bite

    I resently discovered that I bite my mouthpiece to produce tone. how can I get rid of this habit? I have my mouthpiece far out on the cork of the neck to get a good pitch. I have recently also tried to blow with a relaxed mouth but I cannot blow as long as I can when I bite abit to it. neither do...

    Started by Ricgus3, 04-16-2010 01:06 PM
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  13. Developping this great smooth Jazz Sound ????

    I always Try to develop this great sound on the Saxophone but i don`t know how to produce it. What do i have to Practice? How do i have to Practice? Is there any special technique to develop this sound? ... I try to achieve such a great sound: ...

    Started by Saxman1991, 08-05-2010 05:39 PM
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  14. Problem starting low notes on tenor

    Hi, I have a problem starting low notes on a tenor, it starts off with high and the settles in on the low note. I have tried different reed strengths but to no avail. Once the note is started and I tongue it it is fine. What can I do to try and remedy the situation. I have attached an example.

    Started by tjaart, 06-26-2010 04:11 AM
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  15. Fat vs Dark vs Stuffy

    My set-up is as follows: Early Conn 10M, Master Link 4**** mouthpiece, Marc Jean Lig, and Fibracell Soft reed. From this set-up, I was expecting a dark tone, which I believe I am getting. When is dark just dark, How can I tell if my tone is stuffy, or too dark and fat. Even the high notes G2...

    Started by TenSax, 07-29-2010 09:05 PM
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  16. Actual sound or just phrasing?

    Hey all. I've been working on my sound a lot lately and have been trying to emulate this altoist Myron Walden (Brian Blade's band). There's this one pentatonic lick that he played on a tune where I really love his sound (decent amount of edge, and a dark reediness which sounds Asian to me for...

    Started by tmgaus53, 07-28-2010 05:28 AM
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  17. Voicing lessons - worth it

    Would it be worth my while to take some voicing lessons, I see how important proper voicing is to play the saxophone, would voicing lessons assist in improving my tone and control? ps: I spoke to the teacher at the music school and asked him about the singing lessons he gave and he was quick to...

    Started by tjaart, 07-26-2010 03:38 AM
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  18. Sounding like a clarinet

    Hi, I recently got my alto chops to a new level and I'm quite happy about my progress. The downside was I stared sounding more like a clarinet. My friend actually came up with the term after listening to a recording of my playing and after listening to it myself I noticed the same. Immediate...

    Started by jokunen, 07-26-2010 06:43 PM
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  19. Airy sound?

    Im about to be a somphmore in high school and was wondering why do i have a slightly airy sound? Set up is a standard yahmah 4c mouthpices with #3 blue vandoren reeds, Taiwanese made Tenor sax

    Started by saxownz, 07-19-2010 07:34 AM
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  20. Your tones affect on intonation!

    I found this article on the internet while surfing around tonight and found it fascinating. Basically, it looks like a research paper that someone did and his conclusions were that the timbre of your instrument affects how the intonation is perceived by yourself and those listening. He's...

    Started by Nefertiti, 07-16-2010 01:28 AM
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  21. Vibrato

    I don't know where else to post this so I'll post it here. What is the best way to produce a warm and controlled vibrato? Is it with the diaphragm or jaw muscles? I can get an ok vibrato sound on the higher notes but on notes below middle D the tone really suffers and it sounds more like a wawa...

    Started by hdinkins, 07-14-2010 05:50 AM
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  22. How to work on intonation

    Hi Everyone, I am a highschool student and some say my playing is a bit above average (not in the interest of boasting - but in the interest of giving indication of level). Anyway, my music teacher at school and my private teacher have both alerted me to some intonation things. I play a...

    Started by Jazz House, 07-09-2010 11:46 AM
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  23. Afraid that long tones will change sound

    I know, this may sound crazy-just bear with me: A couple of months ago I added a quick long tone routine to my practice sessions, and my sound changed pretty quickly. Now, I actually, for the most part, have it where I want it. I still definitely need to work on a stronger embouchure, tone...

    Started by tmgaus53, 07-07-2010 10:41 PM
    embouchure, long tones, sound
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  24. How do you play with a better tone when playing very softly?

    I'm starting to become fed up with a mediocre sound at p and softer. Any help guys?

    Started by ArchSax, 07-07-2010 06:44 PM
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  25. The Perfect Embouchure!

    I guess there is no "perfect" embouchure, but what would you consider the best way to produce a sound on the sax?

    Started by musicislove, 06-27-2010 10:42 PM
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  26. Lig Placement

    I'm currently playing on a Barone Jazz 7*. Love the piece. Using RJS 2H filed reeds, I was placing the lig slightly behind the file line which made sense to me. However at my last lesson I was having intermittent problems getting some of the G2 and up from speaking consistently and low notes...

    Started by buddy lee, 06-23-2010 06:54 PM
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  27. Allard Method teachers

    I just spent most of the weekend reading everything I could find about Mr. Allard. Amazing. Anyone know how I would go about locating someone to teach me this method? PM me please. Thanks

    Started by mayho, 01-27-2010 05:35 AM
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  28. Quiet B and Bb

    Hi everyone, In my practicing i cant seem to quietly tongue the lower notes (mostly B and Bb) and once i start the note i cant get it quieter than a mf or so without the note stopping due to lack of air support. i know this is one of the 'practice, practice, practice' things, but is there any tips...

    Started by Whyrusleeping, 06-18-2010 01:41 AM
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  29. Subconcious Habit (and some Allard questions)

    I've recently come to discover that I've developed a habit, and I'm not sure if it needs fixing. When I play, I rest the tip of my tongue against my bottom lip (also touching my bottom teeth) and my tongue is on the floor of my mouth. To tongue, I just raise the front portion of my tongue (a...

    Started by blusic, 06-17-2010 11:47 PM
    allard, habit, tongue position, tonguing
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  30. Tongue Movement - less important

    Hi, you frequently find in sax teaching books, that it would be important to move the tongue only very slightly away from the reed. While this could be the case (I don't know), I don't think that this is a good thinking... Even if you say that the best thing would be to leave the embouchure...

    Started by Mugger, 06-17-2010 09:54 AM
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  31. Tenor tightness

    Well, seems like a suitable place to post this thread. I've been playing sax (and clarinet) for around three years now. In general I feel pretty comfortable (physically) with clarinet, alto sax and sop sax but I have real problems with the tenor sax. Sometimes I feel relaxed and comfortable with...

    Started by robintas, 06-15-2010 04:55 AM
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  32. Clarinet tone

    This is one for you clarinet doublers. I'm sefl taught on clarinet and seems my Bflat at the third line on the staff has a snarfy sound to it.(About the only was I can describe it.) Someone told me once that is a characteristic of most clarinets. Anyone agree with that or have a solution? Thanks.

    Started by Dick Schermer, 01-27-2010 10:37 PM
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  33. throat voicing flattens pitch

    Several months ago I managed to get out of my biting habit which was great, except my ability to play high E and F immediately disappeared (figures if I was biting to get them out). I don't want to ask for the millionth time on this forum "How do I play those notes?" since the answer is voicing, of...

    Started by Buescher, 06-14-2010 05:39 AM
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  34. soprano sax and overtones

    hello, please help. the only wind instrument i play is soprano sax and i would like to know what's reasonable within the realm of possibility regarding overtones so i don't battle with windmills. i was wondering if overtones are easier or harder to play on soprano than on lower pitched saxes. ...

    Started by father amos, 01-08-2010 09:38 AM
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    long tones, overtones, sax, soprano
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  35. How much does the horn itself make a difference in tone?

    I know that everybody is going to have a unique tone and it is most likely going to stay that way. At this point I have stopped doing long tones (about to get back on them though for endurance), used to do them all the time and still have pretty much the same tone. My question is how much of a...

    Started by iceman, 06-11-2010 02:37 AM
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  36. Squeak between octaves

    Hey friends, I'm wondering what's causing the squeak between octaves when I play. It occurs when I go from middle C or C# to middle D for example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtQx5ktAmNs Here's me playing Lazy Bird - it happens like 5 times. If you want to comment on other aspects of my...

    Started by SongsMadeForYou, 06-10-2010 11:48 PM
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  37. Unhappy changing throat issues - help please!

    Recently, as my instructor has pointed out, I am having throat issues. He noticed that I tend to dramatically adjust my throat depending on which register I am playing in. For some reason, this really seems to affect playing my G (:space5:). It usually happens when I am coming to it from a higher...

    Started by cubbies2ws, 06-07-2010 09:12 PM
    intonation, overblow, throat
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  38. Nasty Habit developed

    I have a nasty habit that i now keep doing...head tilts to the side i will make a conscious effort to change it ..because i practice in a small room unfortunately too small the sound is big so because of neighbors and my own ears i like to make it sound nice what ever the case after all its music...

    Started by newsax, 06-04-2010 10:50 AM
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  39. Lower Register

    When I play from around low E to Bb, it starts off out of tune, then after half a second or so, it becomes in tune. Is this something from my part, embouchure, etc? Or my equipment (I have a YTS -62, and the mouthpiece that came with it is a Yamaha 4C. Using a orange box, 3 Rico reed.)

    Started by Mustachio, 05-18-2010 12:42 AM
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  40. Alto, A to C trill-intonation

    I'm aware that A in second octave is pretty sharp itself and with practicing I've menaged to make it in tune with enbouchure. Still, when I trill/run fast A to C it's dificult because those two notes need different embouchure placement and lip pressure, so it sounds slightly out of tune. Is it...

    Started by Slure, 06-06-2010 11:45 AM
    alto, intonation, tone
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  41. Loosen Up?

    Im having trouble with my embouchure, and i think i need to loossen up with it a little bit. I play Tenor, and when i play low D or below, i have trouble getting the tone clear and most importantly, smooth. It wants to always go up an octave and sounds awful when it waves between octaves. Im...

    Started by Sewer Sound, 05-31-2010 03:01 AM
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  42. Help with Vibrato

    Does anyone have any advice for getting a good vibrato? I am learning how to do vibrato and I can kind of do it but to me, it just doesn't sound good. When I hear myself do vibrato, it sounds like I am changing the pitch too much and it is not fast enough. But no matter what I do it doesn't seem to...

    Started by kittybarisax, 05-22-2010 10:24 PM
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  43. octive is playing up

    i am recently having this problem where it wasnt a problem before, i play the D,E,F,G keys with octive key pressed when playing long tone and the sound reverts back and forth to an octive down and up and down again (ie. like when the octive key is not pressed ie. middle D,E,F,G) it is not stable as...

    Started by starboarder, 05-30-2010 10:12 AM
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  44. Air in my sound...

    I've had the roughest time with air in my alto sound... Something I'm not at all used to from my days playing bari. My actual sound has improved immensely, but I STILL have an airy quality I don't want. Any tips? Setup: Jupiter 767 Vandoren AL4 V12 2.5's (like a 2.9-3.0 in trad)

    Started by ArchSax, 05-20-2010 02:38 AM
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  45. Cannot seem to play the low notes B flat and B on the Alto

    Its definately me, I can't seem to be able to play the low notes B flat and B on my Kessler Custom Alto Saxophone. Right now I'm using a Kessler 50NY mouthpiece with 2.5 Rico Royale reeds. I have a rovner lig but I normally use the metal lig since I like the sound better. Thinking it has to be my...

    Started by rayyip, 05-27-2010 09:41 PM
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  46. Air speed and how much mouthpiece...

    Hello, can someone please explain to me how the following is related physically: If you produce a cold, fast airstream (like spitting...) you have to insert very little mouthpiece to get a decent sound, otherwise it will sound like a steamboat (that is the problem beginners have when you tell...

    Started by Mugger, 05-08-2010 09:13 AM
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  47. Bari to Alto?

    I usually play bari for school band, but recently switched to alto, ant my notes on the alto are sqeaky and wobbly/shaky. Could it be because im used to blowing more air into the bari?

    Started by saxplayer2010, 05-25-2010 12:19 AM
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  48. the old juliard school Allard method

    hi guys, i decided to post a link to these written Joe Allard school saxophone lessons i made for someone. They are basically what i remember of the first basic concept lessons from the old juliard school saxophone department. my teacher george was a graduate student in the juliard saxophone...

    Started by garyjones, 02-13-2010 09:12 PM
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  49. Tone production for Tenor

    I have a question: I'm mainly an alto sax player that's been doing a lot of long tones. I'm planning to improve my tone on tenor with long tones. Do you guys have any tips on how to view the overall sound quality and tone of the tenor sax versus the alto? Do you treat playing tenor the same...

    Started by That1saxguy, 05-20-2010 02:05 AM
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  50. Dom7 Chord Line using Your Ear - Stuff to shed :)

    This study involves using the ear on a line.It's good review for the advanced player ( or use it with your students) and very important. http://www.saxontheweb.net/Price/Dom7ChordLine.html Dom7 Chord Line using Your Ear - In this lesson we are going to start to build your...

    Started by Tim Price, 05-16-2010 04:00 PM
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