Guardala or B&S Baritones

[Morry]

Anyone know of a music store out there (preferably in the U.S.) that has a Guardala or B&S bari in stock?

[Anji]

Birdland Music in Catskill, NY had one some time back...

Could be that it is still there... (this one was a Guardala Bari).
Lovely horn, but it was out of my price range.

Search Birdland Music to find the page.

[Randall]

Morry, unless I am mistaken, this is the shop that was asking over 5K for the bari....
Still it is worth a look-see....

[Morry]

I can get a black nickel Keilwerth from WW&BW for $5400 or so. With the current exchange rate, that's not bad.

[SuperDave]

I don't know if Birdland has any Guardala Baris, as I bought the bari from them last year. I got a good deal and it plays great. I liked it so much I bought a Guardala tenor. :)

[Morry]

I'm still considering a Guardala or B&S bari. Anyone want to share their experiences and comparisons with either of these against one of the big 4.

[Whatasaxman]

Morry,
I can check with the US distributor for the Chicago Jazz Series(B&S) horns on Monday and find out what kind of discount they can do on the Bari, the last Alto &tenor they sent me were both awesome horns and I can't imagine the Bari not to be great also. Or you could try wwbw, last I checked they do carry the CJS horns.
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[Morry]

I'd love to know what a CJS bari could be had for. Are you a dealer?

[Whatasaxman]

I am a Pearl flute dealer, and the CJS horns are distributed by Orpheus music also, so I have dealt with those some(just can't afford to stock them). I will cal Monday am to see what kind of deal they can do, as it changes. Sometimes I can meet wwbw prices, sometimes not, depends on the distributor. I'll let you know.

[Randall]

Do those CJS baris come in the sand finish or black nickle?
The sand finish would be pretty awesome looking and sounding I dare say.

[Whatasaxman]

Here's a link to the manufacturer site for CJS
http://www.lasax.com/Chicago_Jazz_Series/Chicago_Jazz_Series_Prices/chicago_jazz_series_prices.html
unfortunately no earthtone on the Bari

[Morry]

Do those CJS baris come in the sand finish or black nickle?
The sand finish would be pretty awesome looking and sounding I dare say.

Yeah, until you drained that spit valve about a hundred times and it got all splotchy. Actually, I understand that they now have a coat of satin lacquer over the sand finish. Is that correct?

[My-Low-SX90R]

Actually, if anyone is interested, I think WWBW has 2 Guardala baris in stock in gold lacquer. They are what they call B-Stock.

[Morry]

My Guardala black nickel bari should be here sometime this week. :-)

[shmuelyosef]

Are these Guardalas made by B&S in Germany? I remember a thread somewhere else but couldn't find it. Why aren't there more of these if they are such great horns at reasonable prices?

[Morry]

They were made by VMI (maker of B&S), but are no longer in production. There are a few remaining unsold ones around the country if you look. Miles Ahead in Louisville has access to several altos and tenors.

[Randall]

According to Dave Guardala (via Branford Marsalis), Dave is going to make horns again...just a matter of time.
I got this info about a year ago....

[Randall]

Hey Morry,
I want pix and a full report when she comes...you dog!
I think you are going to be one VERY happy camper!

[newking70]

Morry - have you considered a WWBW Allora bari? a friend of mine who is an insider in the german sax business, has told me that the allora bari, is basically a b&s(vmi)medussa stencil, so with the right set up, you might have a killer horn, for less than many pro mfg's student model........

[Morry]

After sending the Guardala bari back, I'm sure I'm going to wait until I can manage a Keilwerth. I'm accustomed to the JK keywork now, and don't want to swap around.

[My-Low-SX90R]

newking70,
Actually the Allora saxes, including the Bari are all made by B&S. Also, if anyone is interested there is still a Guardala Bari at WWBW for under $3K.

[Morry]

Just an FYI for anyone looking at the Guardala baris. I found the keywork to be very, very small and cramped feeling, and I don't have large hands. Of course, I've been playing Keilwerth horns for a while now...

[newking70]

Morry - didya ever get your sx-90 baritone, how do you like it?

[Morry]

Nah, I just bought a motorcycle and a 56 Chevy, so my toy fund is fully depleted. :-(

[Joe Jazz]

That will teach you to leave your house on the weekends! If you were home practicing you wouldn't be buying that vehicle non-essential stuff and you'd have the money for that non-essential sax stuff, like the copper neck I just ordered for my JK alto! :roll:

[Morry]

I had to leave the house. I couldn't sit around and listen to you Floridians complain about a little wind and rain! :-) Hope everyone there is ok.

[Joe Jazz]

Hey, it's headed your way now! Hope you have nothing to complain about when Frances is through with you. She came very close with a lot of wind and rain, but missed us again by the hair on my chinny chin chin! I sat outside all night and played soprano.....she ran the other way...... :occasion: Not that many people get a hurricane for their birthday......

[Morry]

I vaguely remember drinking a few hurricanes on one of my birthdays.

It is supposed to affect us tomorrow, but today was beautiful.