Real Book

[Bill Gaulke]

Last week some one on here posted about The Real Book.... I got one volume,, but I can't find the site again,,I thought it was on here,,,There was the word "Rust" in the address....Help!!!!!!
Thanx,
Bill

bgaulke@techline.com

[melvyng]

Here you go:
http://www.rustybrooks.org/music/realbook/

:) Mel

[baz]

Fantastic, took a few hours to down load but got all four books. There was also a french site around a few months ago, which had the Sher real books for download, does any one know if it's still around.

[Jazzed]

:D

[baz]

Thanks Jazzed, I found the site, but unable to download.
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~nslee/realbooks.html

[Jazzed]

You're right the links don't work... too bad. That was good stuff.

[ferrari]

I just found this in my favorites. I don't know when, or how I found this site, but it's great because it let's you download the tune you want, as you need it. It's been in my favorites a while so it seems to be a fairly stable site.

Here's the linkhttp://mapage.noos.fr/realbook/index_a-f.htm

[ferrari]

Wow! I just got through browsing around this site. Once you're in, click on LIENS, to check out links to other great sites. Have fun.

[Sigmund451]

cool info. I have a set but its nice you can replace them on line. You can get a full set if you talk to the guys who sell them online for about 50 bucks after shipping....all three volumes in what ever key you want. Its not a bad deal for a huge collection.

[Sigmund451]

well, someone is doing their homework...all the links are shut down currently. Music Murderers :evil:

[BayviewSax]

The good news is, there are enough of us that were able to get these things while they were available. They're not lost, the chain will eventually carry on. Isn't it funny how quickly folks get up in arms about *their* copyrights once someone ELSE establishes a market?

[Sigmund451]

:idea: :idea: Folks who did downloads and have broadband need to get this stuff out on Kaaza for individual file sharing. :idea: :idea:

I have the books in print so I dont need them. But Im not too thrilled about how industry keeps tightening its grips on what should by now (after years and years in existence) be part of the public domain.

[BayviewSax]

I'm quite sure I'd have no idea what you mean by "Kazaa"... neither would I know anything about Grokster, Limewire, WinMX, Morpheus or any other file sharing service. Especially as pertains to the following .pdf files:

colobk
evansbk
jazzfake
jazzltd
newreal1
newreal2
newreal3
realbk1
realbk2
realbk3
thebook

[Saxaholic]

Anyone have any of the real books, fake books, etc etc in Eb for alto sax? Is it possible to find it online, or share files via Kazaa? I already have the book in concert pitch, I'm looking to make my life a little easier so I don't have to constantly transpose. Can anyone help me out? Thanks.

Saxaholic

[Larry in CA]

I have read what is available, and found the concert C downloads for the batch of books. I am not really good at transcribing, does anyone have the Tenor (B flat) versions of any of these fake books, or Real Books, on PDF format who could burn me a copy of their CD? Would like to share the resource.

[souldiablo]

Is there anybody that has the books that is willing to email me a copy of what they have? souldiablo@earthlink.net

Thanks
Jesse

[Sigmund451]

I think there is now a b flat version of the fake books that pops up on ebay now and then that is on cd...all three versions. It would cost about 15 bucks at a print shop to have them made up for you. I have them in c in a file but not b flat. They also sell the books on ebay. I made an off line deal with a guy for all three for 50 bucks. Keey your eyes peeled.

:arrow: I just checked ebay look at item 3711006296
:arrow: item 3712524723 for all three b flat books.

If my memory serves me this is the dealer who sold me all three in b flat. I think he has all of them. He will send them book rate and you can save. Maybe you can work something out with him. Name is very familiar. Books were good copies. I think its a worthwhile investment to have them in bookform. I wouldnt mind the cds for reference if I could find them in the right key though.

[souldiablo]

sry guys, but i need the books in Eb. Also shouldn't the people that were able to download them for free be sharing them with others at the same price that they got them for which is nothing?

Jesse

[BayviewSax]

Most of those that were out and about for downloading were in the key of C. It is actually illegal for those people to share them, so don't expect people to broadcast that they have them. As for the keys, there's always blank staff paper. You'd be amazed how quickly you can get accustomed to transposing. 8)

[souldiablo]

well anyone that has one and would like to share could you shoot me an email at SouldiablO@earthlink.net ...maybe sooner or later i will get good at transposing...

Thanks
Jesse

[Sigmund451]

Not that I would EVER download anything but in my wonderings I cant say that I have seen digital versions other than in C myself. Bayview is correct. I think that the printed versions are not legal but somehow a little more tollerated than mass distribution by the internet.

[BayviewSax]

Precisely what I was driving at, Sig. Also, from what I understand, the files are quite large (too large, in fact, to be e-mailed). I've seen the pring copies in music stores for about $30. If someone is hawking them for $15/copy, that's a good deal, and if I were in the market, and of course unscrupulous, I'd probably go that route. I also understand that to have them printed runs about $25/binded copy. But it is unlikely that one would learn *every* song in the book, so blank composition paper, a .pdf file, and a little patience is probably the way to go.

[Jazzed]

I have found the ability to sight-transpose a very valuable skill (I'm about 95% able to sight-read/transpose). All my books and charts are in C now. It saves me the work of having to write a separate chart for myself or have duplicate books/charts in different keys. Try it, you'll like it... especially since you can play any tune that the rhythm section has ink for.

[Frank D]

Ditto that , especially if you double alto/tenor. Carrying two sets of books around is not practical. Another advantage of sight transposing is that you can play any tune someone has a lead sheet for, and not be stuck just because there's only a C part.

[ralph lh]

if souldiablo is still looking, and for anyone else, check out this site for hard copy or CD versions. I'm not saying that I have them, but, this is worth a look. ;)

No relationship to the site/company btw.

[Bnatural]

forget to list the site... or am i missing something

[ralph lh]

OK, I'll try this again. Don't know what happened since I am sure the URL was in the first post.

However it is - http://www.musiclifeusa.com/digital.html

As I said before, I have no connection to this co. and don't know how they can do this but.....

[BayviewSax]

Wow! Good prices. But if I may, I'd like to make a good argument for transcribing the C book. Transcribing forces you to do an analysis of the tune without your even being aware. It's another added benefit, along with reducing the quantity of tunes within the book.

[saxmanglen]

Hey guys!

Just a word of caution!

I've been waiting for about six weeks for copies of "The REAL book" in Bb from MusiclifeUSA. Paid for an auction March 23rd on eBay. I had contacted him after four weeks and he swears he shipped them. He also said he'd ship another set out since the first ones must have been lost. Still waiting.......................................

He gave links to download copies in Bb if I should need some charts before the hard copies arrive. I don't have much hope he'll come through as he's now accumalted multiple negative feedback with folks in my same boat.

Now I don't think you should accidently copy and paste the links below into your browser, but...................?


http:/www.colcenter.org/talanh/realbook/digital/bastian/b.zip

http:/www.colcenter.org/talanh/realbook/digital/bonz/g.zip

http:/www.colcenter.org/talanh/realbook/digital/bleachstain/k.zip

[Dr_sax]

Someone also didn´t get their hard copy of the Eb version of the real book? :wink: And knows the links :wink:

[BayviewSax]

Another black eye for ebay. That's too bad, because that's a pretty good outlet for the books.

[gerryr]

I wish someone would post links to a set of Eb Realbooks :wink: - not that I would know what to do with them :roll: .

I am currently transposing :cry: from the C version and occassionally I make a mistake :oops: .

[BayviewSax]

Those aren't mistakes - that's on the job training.

[RatBatBlues]

Someone also didn´t get their hard copy of the Eb version of the real book? :wink: And knows the links :wink:
Just a thought, but maybe you and a few of your friends can scrape up the $10/book to get the links yourself :)

[Tom Goodrick]

There is a solution to the problem of transposing that is not as easy as stealing on the Internet but works fine for me. Using BOOKS I BOUGHT, I transcribe songs I like using the free FINALE NotePad software. Then I transpose them into any key that fits the horn I intend to use and print them with my low-cost laser printer. They come out looking great and are easy to read. Then I punch three holes and put them in a notebook. I started two years ago and have well ove 150 tunes now.

Some might frown on this aspect, but, it is entirely legal as long as I do not sell them. I keep a C part marked with changes and a B flat part for each tune. (I no longer play alto, just tenor.) This is the perfect solution for alto players.

Entering a tune is pretty easy though it takes a little practice. once it is entered in any key, getting a copy in another key takes 10 seconds plus print time.

To find this software, look under finale on the Net.

[BayviewSax]

There is a solution to the problem of transposing that is not as easy as stealing on the Internet but works fine for me. Using BOOKS I BOUGHT, ...

Aside from making a good point about the transposing, I have to take exception to the portion of your comment above. So you BOUGHT your real books. Most real books, excepting maybe those in the Leonard series, are illegal to begin with. I know that the entire collection offered at my local music store are uncopyrighted volumes (at $30 a whack). I'll continue to use my .pdf files with a clear conscience, thank you.

[Tom Goodrick]

Today, there is no excuse for buying an illegal fake book. I will admit I have one that was given to me 40 years ago. But I have one of the Leonard books that is better and cost only $40 on the Internet. It is published with all permissions. It looks better and is easier to read than the bad old book.

Most of my songs, however, come from published song books (many also by Leonard) written for piano and organ.

As responsible citizens, we should buy only music books that show evidence of legal publication.

There was a statement made above that old songs should pass into Public Domain. There may be some basis for that. But, when you think of it, if somebody like James Van Heusen, Johnny Mandel, Cole Porter or Hoagy Carmichael writes a song that is still popular after 70 years, I hope they or their heirs get a little piece of the action because they were top notch musicians.

[RatBatBlues]

These links have lists of legal real books. Hal Leonard, Warner Bros and Chuck Sher publishing each have many books out - looks like close to 100 total.

My point being that the legit versions outnumber the bootlegs.

http://www.seventhstring.co.uk/fbindex.html
http://sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_fastresults.html?cart=3294478236586445

[BayviewSax]

There was a statement made above that old songs should pass into Public Domain. There may be some basis for that. But, when you think of it, if somebody like James Van Heusen, Johnny Mandel, Cole Porter or Hoagy Carmichael writes a song that is still popular after 70 years, I hope they or their heirs get a little piece of the action because they were top notch musicians.

True, but the other side of that argument is that Michael Jackson or Eminem, or some other such person lacking in talent could buy the rights to that music eventually, as Jackson did with the Beatles material. The Lennon & McCartney families no longer own the rights to the material, Jack-o does.

[TenorReinier]

As if the appropriate people will be paid when real books would be printed legal.

Come on dudes, share the music.

http://notes.tarakanov.net/standard.htm

TenorReinier 8)

[saxmanglen]

Well, I nearly pooped my pants this last week when my 3 Bb fakebooks showed up. Only 4 months late but I'll take them and use them. I pretty much wrote that one off to experience. MusicLife made good.............................................. ......... finally!

[BayviewSax]

Glen,

Congrats! I wish I could share a similar story about Go Hastings and my Aebersold Volume 93, but the just shilled me a second time.

:evil:

[gary]

There's an alternative to all of this if you can find it. There is "available" on CD all three New Real Books and the original first illegal Real Book on Band in a Box files and it's great. You've got all the tunes in compact form, can transpose to any key, play along, slow the tunes down, speed them up etc and you can print any tune out in lead sheet format, etc. Of course you need BIAB but, frankly, if you can get the Real Book CD, I think purchasing BIAB would be worth the investment.

[BayviewSax]

good point.

[RatBatBlues]

I need more clues. I would really like to find the NRB tunes in BIAB format.

[gary]

A colleague of mine has it. He bootlegs a lot of stuff, which I'm not comfortable with. When I asked him where he got it he couldn't remember, probably because its just a drop in the bucket of all the "illegal" stuff he's got.

I came across a site with it one cloudy-minded night as I was cruising the internet but that was about three years ago and have no idea where it was. Maybe some creative Googling can turn it up. Sorry I can't help more.

[Gandar]

I just found this in my favorites. I don't know when, or how I found this site, but it's great because it let's you download the tune you want, as you need it. It's been in my favorites a while so it seems to be a fairly stable site.

Here's the linkhttp://mapage.noos.fr/realbook/index_a-f.htm

That link doesn't work, but this one might do the trick:
http://mapage.noos.fr/realbook/index_accueil.htm

[Eulipion2]

I...er...have this friend...ummm...who may or may not have downloaded all three legal, and all three illegal real books, in C unfortunately, as well as a few other real/fakebooks. This friend was in a jazz combo his freshman year of college, and the combo instructor loved to play Rahsaan Roland Kirk tunes, which he got out of one of the illegal books. Now, this friend of mine can't seem to find these tunes, Fly Town Nose Blues and Three For the Festival in particular, in any of the books he's come across, and is wondering if there are any more volumes out there.

Thanks,
Friend of a Criminal :wink:

[ztephen]

I'm quite sure I'd have no idea what you mean by "Kazaa"... neither would I know anything about Grokster, Limewire, WinMX, Morpheus or any other file sharing service. Especially as pertains to the following .pdf files:

colobk
evansbk
jazzfake
jazzltd
newreal1
newreal2
newreal3
realbk1
realbk2
realbk3
thebook


Ye really I have no idea. I did not just get all three real books in the key of C from Limewire.

[dextertutu]

hey people the real book 1-2-3 and others depending on your word search can be found at www.mininova.org cause i just checked the site - in order to download you need a prog like bitcomet etc. this may help.dexter

[Jbroad572]

Are you guys going to print off all of those pages? That's a ton of printing... just curious. I'm looking for a real book as well.