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Mad Duran
09-29-2003, 12:35 AM
I received a silver Gloger neck for my MK VI tenor several months ago. This is my second Gloger neck for my tenor. I picked out a copper copy MK VI neck from Gloger when I was in The Netherlands in summer 2002.

As most of you know, I am the US representative for Gloger products. I was so happy with my copper neck, frankly wasn't looking for anything else. But then this silver neck arrives, in all it's beauty I had to try it.

At first audition, oh yes this plays well too just like my copper Gloger. It seems to be a bit impersonal at first something I wasn't looking for. The response was excellent, just like my copper, maybe the low end was even a little better on the silver, but it seemed not to have the personality of the copper, not the same overtones, perhaps.

As time went on, I would find myself favoring the copper over all. It has been interesting to have two necks to try reeds with. But even after 5 months I have played my copper neck much more in performance.

I'm just starting to appreciate the difference with the silver and copper necks. I think I liked the copper neck because it is closer to the brass neck that came with the horn I've been playing on for 30+ years. I didn't change my mouthpiece or reeds for that matter when I switched from my original neck to the Gloger copper. So the copper neck responses and flexibility has similar resistance, which is very important in my opinion as it relates to sound production. This is probably why I enjoy my copper neck.

But recently I had a situation where I was using a good reed for nearly a month on the copper neck, and finally it's just too soft, but it still had a good sound, and I got lazy, so I switched to my silver neck, and I was back in business with a good sound. The silver neck can hold up beautifully with a softer reed, has the resistance and projection to bring new life to this reed. Not only that but I have an added bonus of use a softer reed and having incredible flexibility and ease of response. I think I play differently because the neck frees up so much more especially in the lower register. I'm finally becoming a real tenor player, not an alto player that happens to play tenor, because of where my main "voice" of my playing has been in the mid to high register.

The reason I mention all this is because I know there are players with resistant issues, that need to get a big projecting sound but have blown out their neck muscles. Well here's your option, Gloger Silver necks, check it out....

mad duran

Mike Ruhl
09-29-2003, 12:55 AM
Excellent analysis, Mad - very perceptive. As an old King Super 20 tenor-player, I agree with your assessment of the silver neck's characteristics. I think as you "grow into" the tenor, you'll enjoy that silver neck more and more. Silver necks seem to handle the extremes much better.

Morry
01-07-2004, 10:25 PM
Mad, I tried to send you an email, but your Earthlink spamguard bounced it, so I'll ask here.

I've got a plain lacquer Keilwerth tenor that I like very much, but I'd like to "sweeten" the sound a bit. You know the JKs are a bit spread and can be raucus. There are times when I want that and use my Barone Jazz metal piece. I like that combination for Getz-y type stuff. I bet a copper neck would be a nice addition down the road. But when playing more in your face funk kind of stuff, I'd like a sound that I can only describe as "smooth power". Such a vague term, I know. I use a Yani metal piece, and I thinking I might like to mate it to a sterling Gloger neck. Any thoughts?

BTW, is the underslung octave reliable? It would seem to free up the top of the neck so you could adjust it better without handling the octave arm.

Morry

Jonah
01-08-2004, 03:38 AM
Hi Mad,

I was just thinking about the gloger necks again. My mark vi tenor is seeming stuffy. Or i feel like its potential could be maximized more. And i am wondering what difference a neck would do. Do you have any gloger necks in stock currently? how much are they? silver vs. brass? thick vs. thin? you wouldn't happen to be coming down to LA anytime soon?

thanks,

Jonah

josephmd
01-08-2004, 04:31 AM
I bought a Gloger silver neck for my Conn 26M. It improved response and intonation. I really liked the harmonics it produced. I ordered a silver neck for my Conn transitional and anxiously await it's arrival.

Mad Duran
01-08-2004, 11:35 AM
Jonah,

I'm not coming to LA anytime soon, but you come to SF quite offen, we could arrange to meet the next time you come up. I have a copper MKVI copy and silver. The silver neck is not very representative of Gloger necks because it's a return, I believe he thinks it's too thick and doesn't respond as evenly as the other necks that I tried. I fact I have a silver MVI that really plays very even and great. The low register is amazing and altisimo just speaks great. You arewelcome to try my neck, but the tenon maybe too large for your horn.
Send me an email if you like.
madduran@earthlink.net

Jonah
01-08-2004, 12:34 PM
Hey Mad,

Thanks, I would love to try your silver Gloger when I come up. I will be there playing in a few weeks. I think the weeknd of the 30th of Jan. Do you still have that Martin gloger neck? that would be cool to try that too. Are you in town that weekend? Are tenon sizes related to serial numbers at all? I have a 103,XXX mark vi.

Jonah

Morry
01-13-2004, 09:56 PM
Mad, I tried to send you an email, but your Earthlink spamguard bounced it, so I'll ask here.

I've got a plain lacquer Keilwerth tenor that I like very much, but I'd like to "sweeten" the sound a bit. You know the JKs are a bit spread and can be raucus. There are times when I want that and use my Barone Jazz metal piece. I like that combination for Getz-y type stuff. I bet a copper neck would be a nice addition down the road. But when playing more in your face funk kind of stuff, I'd like a sound that I can only describe as "smooth power". Such a vague term, I know. I use a Yani metal piece, and I thinking I might like to mate it to a sterling Gloger neck. Any thoughts?

BTW, is the underslung octave reliable? It would seem to free up the top of the neck so you could adjust it better without handling the octave arm.

Morry

Hey Mad. In case you missed my above post inquiring about Gloger necks...