PDA

View Full Version : taking care of silver


segaleon
04-30-2007, 05:11 PM
I'm looking at getting a silver R&C soprano: has anyone owned one of these for seveal years, and if so, how hard is it to keep it untarnished?
I know about the 3M strips and general care, but would like to know how much time I can expect to be spending on this issue?

Thanks, Leon

jmartin
04-30-2007, 05:51 PM
Kinda on the same topic, do the 3m silver saver strips really work?

Simon Weiner
04-30-2007, 05:53 PM
Kinda on the same topic, do the 3m silver saver strips really work?


Not really. Better off with a Blitz Polishing cloth and a little elbow grease.:)

jmartin
04-30-2007, 05:55 PM
"Elbow Grease," if only it was sold in a bottle.

Simon Weiner
04-30-2007, 06:08 PM
"Elbow Grease," if only it was sold in a bottle.



UHHHH UMMMMM I SELL THAT. 5oz BOTTLE FOR $39.95 How many would you like?:D 8-)

Just because it looks like Vasoline doesn't mean it is.:twisted:

jmartin
04-30-2007, 06:10 PM
UHHHH UMMMMM I SELL THAT. 5oz BOTTLE FOR $39.95 How many would you like?:D 8-)

Just because it looks like Vasoline doesn't mean it is.:twisted:

...Just need your credit card number.

And being from New York I bet you got a bridge to sell me too.

Little Sax
04-30-2007, 06:15 PM
Kinda on the same topic, do the 3m silver saver strips really work?

Actually they do, to an extent. (I use the Haggerty branded kind.) Still better is to wrap your horn in silversmith's cloth.

You may want to read this (http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?p=447005&highlight=silver#post447005) thread and the link I posted there.

Simon Weiner
04-30-2007, 06:20 PM
...Just need your credit card number.

And being from New York I bet you got a bridge to sell me too.

Yeah I do. Wht you lookin fo? Old OR Vintage or Just new? Aint got to many of the last, but for you guy.... Ill do my best. How yous Doin?:D

jmartin
04-30-2007, 06:24 PM
Lol

segaleon
04-30-2007, 06:36 PM
Wow, more than I ever want to know. Bottom line, if I take good care of the horn (strips etc.), will a major cleanup be a yearly thing, monthly, how often?

Simon Weiner
04-30-2007, 06:39 PM
If you take care of the silver issue on a weekly basis for 5 minutes, then haveing the horn checked out yearly or so is a good idea.

Wait so you DON'T want to buy a bridge??8-)

Little Sax
04-30-2007, 06:42 PM
Wow, more than I ever want to know. Bottom line, if I take good care of the horn (strips etc.), will a major cleanup be a yearly thing, monthly, how often?

It really depends on your environment. For example, people living on Islands near the equator have a heck of a time with bare-metal saxophones, but I guess that's a trade-off they don't mind...

If you take care of your horn (silversmith's cloth, strips, etc.,) and have "reasonable" environmental issues, and you use a "little" elbow grease every 6 months or so, you will probably not need to send if off for a major clean-up for several-to-many years. You might not need to send it off until you're in need of new pads.

If you do the bare minimum (just strips for example), you may need to send it off every 12-24 months depending on your level of comfort with the tarnish that's starting to build.

...it's very subjective.

segaleon
04-30-2007, 07:47 PM
Sounds reasonable, and a small price to pay for a good sound and good looking horn: I know some threads here end with "It's all about sound", but beauty is multi-modal... Thanks again for the tips.
Leon

abadcliche
05-06-2007, 01:50 AM
Also depends on the quality of the silver plate. I've got a Chinese made flute I bought for about $200 that plays great, but it turns brown in about two weeks. I also have a 1938 Keilwerth that has been on my stand for a few months now, and hasn't developed any tarnish I can detect.

Those 3M strips do work, provided you change them every few months. They only help though- they will not keep your horn from ever tarnishing.

Yellowhorn
06-18-2007, 06:07 AM
If your silver-plated horn tarnishes, get some silver-polishing cream from a music store and that will make it look like new.

If the tarnish is really bad, I'd recommend a metal-polishing paste (it looks and feels like toothpaste) called Autosol. This thing can remove a lot of dirt and what not from metals, plastics, and almost anything that needs some polishing.

After using Autosol, I would recommend using some silver-polishing cream (Yamaha, or Towntalk brands).

CountSpatula
06-18-2007, 07:25 AM
So wait are you saying I can use it as toothpaste too? ;)

Connical
06-18-2007, 07:41 AM
So wait are you saying I can use it as toothpaste too? ;)

So I take it, you use the same dentist as this guy !

CountSpatula
06-18-2007, 07:57 AM
Gotta keep ma silver plated unlacquered grillz shiny ;)

rogerb40uk
06-18-2007, 10:10 AM
If the Autosol you can buy is anything like what I bought in the UK, DO NOT use it on silver plate!!!!

It is great as a metal polish on bare brass, copper and chromium plate, but is MUCH too abrasive for silver...... unless you really wanted a copper horn and wish to remove the silver ;)

Also best not to use anything, such as cream, which is likely to get into the nooks and crannies..... try an impregnated silver cloth, and cotton buds/Q-tips for the fiddly bits.

Too much trouble for me..I want a 24k plated horn next :)

Yellowhorn
06-18-2007, 05:16 PM
I emphasized that if a horn is really badly tarnished because of its old age, the Autosol can get the rust and dirt out. I have used it on several old, beat-up horns (including trumpets), and it really revitalized their looks; it did not peel the plating as you have suggested.

Silver cream is fine, but not to be used all the time - as long as one keeps cleaning a horn after use everytime with a clean cloth. Every two months or so, when I notice that my Leblanc clarinet gets a little purple on its silver-plated keys, I use a little cream, and it is shiny like new again.

Each to his own! I have only shared what works for me. If you don't like it, don't do it, but there is no point making fun of a sincere suggestion, OK?

Dr G
06-18-2007, 05:40 PM
Roger wasn't making fun of you, Y', he was commenting that the Autosol is abrasive - good to know for those of us that want to avoid abrasives on our silverplate.

Haggerty makes a cream product also - it was recommended to me by local silversmiths.

Yellowhorn
06-19-2007, 11:47 AM
Peace to y'all!

I was in a bad mood when I read some funny comments about the Autosol being used as a toothpaste.

Whatever people say, I am a die-hard silver fan, although I don't really mind a good-looking gold-lacquered horn; my S20 and YSS 62 are!