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Enviroguy
02-05-2007, 08:16 PM
Well, I've mentioned plenty of times that I have a Winston Soprano. This horn is what I believe to be a 350GL before they started printing 350GL on the horn. Mine just says EM Winston - Boston.

When I bought the thing on eBay for about $180.00, it was in just about perfect condition but only came with one neck; the straight one. And no matter what mouthpiece I tried, it played almost a quarter-step flat. In frustration, I ended up getting a hack saw and hacking about half an inch off the neck. This allowed me to play the horn in tune but also caused the opening at the new end of the neck to be considerably larger. This made it play very bright with a trumpet-like sound. And intonation was always terrible.

I tried several homemade restrictors in the neck, but they always just destroyed the tone and made this poor sax sound more like an oboe. The shortened length between the mouthpiece and neck octave vent also just about ended any chance of playing above A2. I used this horn several times in church performances. I always had to keep my eye shut and concentrate very hard to keep the notes in pitch.

But recently, I purchased a couple of no-name replacement necks. One was straight and the other curved. After sanding down the tenons to fit, I found that either of these necks will just about cure the Winston's tone and pitch problems. I played it Sunday for about 200 folks and it sounded great, for the first time. No deep concentration required.

It's very sad that my Winston is basically useless with the original neck. So based on my experienced, I would not recommend the Winston soprano to anyone that doesn't have their own machine shop or at least plenty of saws and tools. ;)

tjontheroad
02-05-2007, 08:48 PM
Funny, I have a Winston fluglehorn. I'm searching for the right lamp shade to match it.

com281
03-22-2007, 10:08 AM
I was lucky enough to sell my Winston soprano to Sam Ash for about $225.00, the proceeds of which went to help pay for a new Antigua 586 LQ. I bought mine in 1996 new and it had decent intonation but its overall sound compared to an Antigua 570 BC soprano and a Yamaha 475 soprano was just mediocre. Mine came with only the one straight neck but I bought a curved after-market neck directly from E.M. Winston in 2004. I never did fit properly and did not improve its sound. I don't regret selling mine one bit.

bari_sax_diva
03-22-2007, 10:12 AM
I have one and wouldn't agree that they're universally bad. It takes a bit of searching to find one that's good, though. That's easy enough if you're in a shop that happens to have several, but otherwise it's probably not worth the effort.

Either way, sorry your experience was so frustrating.

com281
03-22-2007, 10:35 AM
Jupiter, Antigua, La Sax et al all produced horns in the late 1990's that left a little something to be desired. The newer production models of these companies are giving the high-end brand name producers a run for their money. Hopefully Winstons are currently in that class. Has anyone played a recently produced winston horn? Many of the horns coming out of Taiwan look, play and sound great.

Enviroguy
03-23-2007, 06:00 PM
Well, I got an Antigua 590 soprano today. And it's a whole other world. So now that I've publically "dissed" my Winston, I'm going to sell it. With the new necks that make it usable in a performance, I'm thinking $250 or best offer. I'll offer it in the Market Place section as soon as I get some pictures.

NissanMarkVII
12-31-2008, 09:25 PM
I guess I just got lucky when I bought my silver plate "PRO1" in 1995.

EsbSpecial
01-12-2009, 07:31 PM
I bought one from a local music shop (crapcrapcrapcrap) and found that the horn fit the rep of the shop (that is, crapcrapcrapcrap). Luckily, it fostered enough interest to call Kessler and grab an antiqua; now I really, really, really enjoy playing soprano.

I had to basically peel the cork off of the horn to play it anywhere in tune, cannot use side keys out of fear that they will not seal completely and cannot keep the damned thing in any sort of working condition. It, like an old vito clarinet and beat the hell up flute, is eagerly awaiting the pieces to make it a fashionable table lighting device.


Either that or I am going to run it over with my truck and submit it to the local art show as "the ID of the Musician."