Do any pro's use student horns?

[SaxAttack]

I'd like to hear a Pro playing on a Yamaha YAS 23, or some other popular student horn.

Any use a student horn for their gig, recording horn?

[Eulipion2]

A former professor of mine, who is a professional musician, in Columbus was primarily an altoist, but for rare symphony gigs that he had to play tenor he played a YTS-23. I don't know if any of the "big names" play student horns though (but I kinda doubt it).

[markieg]

http://saxontheweb.myforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=4493 is a discussion on this page that talks about the pros, and here is a site it links to about the horns the pros played. Here it is: http://www.mouthpieceheaven.com/content/player.htm

It looks like mostly Selmer, followed by Yamaha and then Conn, but I don't see any real student models around.

[disgruntleddave]

charlie parker? played pretty crappy ones from students to plastic ones apparently

[top_gun25]

what did Hal Lenanard play? wasnt that a student in the begenning of his career? and paul desmond? up till Dave Brubek? old yamaha or something?
(Cant spell sry)

[BrianL]

All I know about Desmond's horns is that he used a Selmer SBA from his Brubeck days to the time of his death. I envy Brubeck's son, getting Paul's alto.

There's a tenor sax player here in my town who plays on a Yamaha YTS-23, and let me say, he sounds awesome.

[Razzy]

Though I doubt it's what you were looking for, I've gotten paid many times to play my alto, and thus am technically a professional already. I use a Vito student model circa 1998. So there you've got one ;)

[SaxAttack]

It's what I was lookin for!

[Riff]

On very rare occassion, when my alto is in the shop, I have a YAS-23 available for back up. It plays and sounds just fine. Though not as "re-fined" as my Selmer. :)

[max]

Until recently, my only alto was a YAS-23. I generally only play alto for wedding gigs; it was perfectly fine...

[BrianL]

Oh yeah, forgot about this. I've got a backup 1970 Conn student alto that I've got incase my 62II is in the shop. I actualy played a couple concerts with it when I owned my 52 and had it in the shop to get it ready to sell.

Actually, that Conn plays pretty well :?

[Razzy]

To hear me on the Vito horn:

http://www.thepagebetween.com/art/improvisation2.wma

[TheChristianSax]

There's a tenor sax player here in my town who plays on a Yamaha YTS-23, and let me say, he sounds awesome.

Brian,

You wouldn't happen to be in the Denton, Texas area would you?

[Dr G]

Though I doubt it's what you were looking for, I've gotten paid many times to play my alto, and thus am technically a professional already.

Hmmm, perhaps not. We've had the discussion before and the consensus is that one is a professional when one can make a living from it. And, no, just because a street person plays the saxophone and collects coins in a can, he is not a professional musician. :wink:

[BrianL]

No I'm in Washington...birthplace of Kenny G...

[top_gun25]

paul desmonds horn setup is:

I play a Selmer alto and a Gregory 4A-18M mouthpiece,
both circa 1951, and Ricco 3 1\2 reeds."
-- Paul Desmond, January, 1976

no clue what make. Selmer. I perfer my VITO 7131R STUDENT. But i am not yet a pro i guess. ehh, what can you do? I say my horn sounds better than half the "PRO" setups you can Buy. Stock Vito stock mouth piece vandoren 2 1/2 reeds. in jazz i will use 3 on occasion. great sound. all around.
By what right do ppl call themselves pros. half are amatures just puffin smoke.
Ppl who know what they are doing, ignore them and play on. you are the true masters of you instruments and my hat is off to you!
I PLAY FOR FUN, THE WAY IT WAS ALWAYS MENT TO BE.

[Manny]

No I'm in Washington...birthplace of Kenny G...


I'm not sure if thats something to be proud of... :wink:

[Razzy]

Hmmm, perhaps not. We've had the discussion before and the consensus is that one is a professional when one can make a living from it. And, no, just because a street person plays the saxophone and collects coins in a can, he is not a professional musician. :wink:

I suppose you're right, never really thought of it that way before. If it weren't for this darned school gig, and auditioning for music college... :roll:

[MojoBari]

Didn't Sonny Rollins do a few years on a Bundy Tenor?

[Hurling Frootmig]

I know Wayne Shorter had a Bundy when he first started with Miles. Miles quickly gave him cash for a Selmer.

[Dr G]

Didn't Sonny Rollins do a few years on a Bundy Tenor?

That sounds like doing jail time... :(

[Dr G]

I suppose you're right, never really thought of it that way before. If it weren't for this darned school gig, and auditioning for music college... :roll:

That's cool. Your time will come - to either suffer or excell. I know many profession musicians who are lucky enough to have spouses with dependable paying jobs to keep things going during lean times. And those lean times can sometimes span decades.

I wish you the best of luck - in school and your career. 8)

[JfW]

Didn't Sonny Rollins do a few years on a Bundy Tenor?

That sounds like doing jail time... :(

Not to brag (which would be stupid on this board) I was one of like the top 3 Alto players in the multidistrict area from my sophomore year (hs) on, I played on a bundy during that period and probably had better tone than the other two using a #3 Vandoren and an old Ebolin mpc.

Besides being a loud clank-trap and requiring about 30lbs of pressure to hit the C# key, it wasn't all that bad.....

...okay, you got me. Yes it was that bad.

[Razzy]

Thanks Dr G. I know what you mean, definitely. That brings to mind a really great vibe player by the name of Tony Miceli who plays a lot here in the Philly area. His wife is a surgeon who makes mucho $$, from what I hear. He's an incredible player, but sadly sometimes a lot of gigs just don't call for a vibe player.

[TheChristianSax]

Thanks Brian, I was just checking. There is a great player that was playing in the Denton area and was a graduate student in the University of North Texas jazz program. He was playing on an old YTS-23, but had an INCREDIBLE sound!
:D

Sincerely,

Matt

[werkinsnake]

Didn't Sonny Rollins do a few years on a Bundy Tenor?

In fact Rollins did play a Bundy. From what I've heard, he did all live performances with a Mark VI, but he recorded in studio with a Bundy. It's not the first time I've heard of this type of scenario. Sometimes artists prefer the sound of their student instrument. But due to the fear of being frowned upon for playing an inferior instrument, they play the "popular instrument" in front of people. Of course if you are Charlie Parker, you just want a horn that played.

[ProfessorZeek]

that is an amazing story about sonny. honestly, though i think the horns do sound different. i have lots of charlie parker recordings and frankly, although there is a consistency in tone, his horns do sound different. i have no idea which ones were good ones though or cheap ones.

razzy, you sounded great on that vito alto horn. what was your mouthpiece? it almost made me wish that i had kept my old vito horn that i started out on.

CKL

[robbieg]

My backup is an old student model Evette Buffet, which I've used a lot of outdoor gigs. It sounds really nice, I'd use it as my main horn but the keywork isnt the smoothest.

[super20dan]

considering that bundys were made by buescher(until 1962) it couldnt have been a bad thing to play a bundy

[werkinsnake]

I once played a Bundy alto that looked like it was made in the 40's. Both low Bb and B toneholes were on the left side. Actually the sound was very similiar to a 400 alto I once played. The keywork is very similiar to the best Bueschers of the time. It's a real mellow sounding horn. I would actually consider buying one for a backup horn if I didn't already have 2 altos.

[super20dan]

i actually own a bundy from the 40,s .it even has brass keys! plays so well you cant tell its not a vintage buescher

[BrianL]

BrianL wrote:
No I'm in Washington...birthplace of Kenny G...



I'm not sure if thats something to be proud of...

Trust me, I'm not proud of it. [/quote]

[BrianL]

Stupid quote button. No I'm not quoting myself, I was quoting someone who quoted me...