Jody Jazz HR* [Archive] - Sax on the Web Forum

rispoli

12-05-2005, 03:42 PM

Good to hear. What size are you guys using and what reeds are you playing with it? I ordered a .105 and plan on starting out with some DC 3's.

I have your same model (HR 7*) and use Superial DC 2.5 with very satisfying results. It's a very, very nice mouthpiece, incredibly well finished. I like it especially to play soft. To "scream" there are better metal pieces around (or, if you just want an HR piece, the Jumbo Java screams better than this)...
I am looking forward to try it with ALexander Classique 2, but those are hard to get here in Canada (I am still waiting...).

Rubel

12-05-2005, 04:15 PM

I play a tenor 8* and love it. I've chosen it over :Jody Jazz ESP, Jody Jazz DV, Otto link STM Flordia, Phil Barone New York, Phil Barone Hollywood, Lebayle jazz wood, and a very good stock link. This piece can do anything I want it to do. But I'm going for that very warm, dark sound, (in the Mike Murley school of sound, for those who know who he is), and it's great at that. It's really good to know that there's a well-manufactured MODERN piece out there that's decently priced. Thanks Jody!

Rubel

SAXISMYAXE

12-05-2005, 07:21 PM

I have the Jody Jazz HR 8* and use a simple two screw metal lig and La Voz med reeds, although I've found this piece to be very reed friendly so all my Vandoren reeds ZZ V16, Blue Box etc. work well on it too.

Rispoli is correct about the darker, slightly less projection traits of the mouthpiece. If you are looking for a real Rock horn screamer, this probably isn't the piece for you.

ving

12-06-2005, 05:19 AM

I tried out the 8* and the 9 I believe, and I initally really liked the 8*. In ended up trying the 9 on a gig and didn't go for it as much--a little too spread out in the upper register for me, although I liked the overall vibe of the mouthpiece. I have been trying a Barone 8 and a Ponzol 110 trad. and they all are similar, pretty good I would say. They each do a little something different than the others, I think the Barone plays probably the closest to a Link, but the Ponzol is good albeit a little more resistant. But I think they are all of similar schools of tone philosophy.
All three have a little more core going for them than the RPC's I own, but also as a result are a little more work, but this is the deal with a darker tenor mouthpiece such as these. I think in the end if a mouthpiece plays much easier than these, it probably doesn't have as much character. IF you want the personality, I think you have to work a little harder to get it--ala a Link...!

12-06-2005, 12:17 PM

TJS I am using a 7* like you. Standard two screw lig. Reeds mainly Alexander Classique 2.5 and Vandoren Classic 2.5 for jazz playing. Actually I have been plaing 3's for a long time. But I haven't been playing that much lately so I steped down half a size to have a little more control and response.

Sometimes I use Vandoren V16 3 and for R&B I use RSJ 3m. They have a little bit more overtones. (But I can't get them to last very long though).

I would like to try a FL lig. Anyone using this lig on HR*? Do you know what size to buy? As I understand it the XL TEN should fit. But they come in three sizes(?) (10.30/103.01 to 10.30/103.02)

/Jan :D

Mike Cesati

12-07-2005, 02:11 AM

ving,

eventually it won't feel like work. You are coming off the easier blowing mpc but the benefits will be worth it. You'll learn to get the volume and projection after putting some more time in on a Link style mpc.

Good luck

ving

12-07-2005, 04:23 AM

Yes, I think thats true. But right now I am doing some pit work and its great to have this 115B RPC. Very easy to play, top to bottom. Not my favorite sound in the world, but in a pit it works really well. In a poerfetc world though...

On a related note, I played a gig with a bass player I hadn't played with in a few years and I was uing the Ponzol I think, and he was like "Hey, didn't you used to play on a metal piece or something? Thats dark..." I haven't played a metal piece, though for way longer than that. But the last time we played I was using the RPC which is quite a bit brighter...So maybe other people (other than me)can hear the difference after all...!

12-07-2005, 06:49 AM

Yean, a similar thing happened to me. I used to love my Hollywood Dukoff on tenor...a bit easier blow than a Link but of the same school for sure. Recently did a rock gig using an SR Tech Fusion (a terrific D-Dukoff-inspired high baffle piece BTW) and now the Hollywood feels like TOO MUCH WORK. Or maybe too little volume. So I just bought Neffertiti's V16 T75 which may be a good compromise. But if I ever want that Trane sound, that Hollywood does it for me.

Ving what sort of pit stuff have you been doing? More modern shows?

ving

12-07-2005, 01:22 PM

yes, I am playing Alladin right now, has some nice contemporary stuff in it.

deblcooper

12-07-2005, 06:52 PM

I would like to try a FL lig. Anyone using this lig on HR*? Do you know what size to buy? As I understand it the XL TEN should fit. But they come in three sizes(?) (10.30/103.01 to 10.30/103.02)

/Jan :D

The FL XL TEN will fit the best. We've sold several Gold XL TEN to players who have bought the JJ HR.

It will scratch the mouthpiece so be careful.

deb

Saxydude

12-11-2005, 02:11 PM

Does this piece still have some edge or is it pretty dark? I play a HR* on alto and I love it, and I'm playing a Florida Link on tenor but think I want something. . .different. Never thought I would like playing a HR jazz piece on tenor until I read about the HR*. I just need to know if it's dark, but still has some edge. Thanks!

TJS

12-11-2005, 08:15 PM

So far I would say dark and some edge but not that much. Not sure if it has enough. I just picked up some DC's to try with it. I tried with RJS 2H's and it plays nice with those but I could go for a tad more edge. I'll let you know more after I try the DC's.

ving

12-12-2005, 04:31 AM

THis is the conundrum, isn't it? I end up always tryiing to get more edge from a tenor mouthpiece--I guess thats why I liked the RPC in the first place, has some edge to it even in the rollover baffle models. I don't know if the Ponzol trad or BArone or the JJ HR * have enough for me...

TJS

12-12-2005, 12:30 PM

That's funny because I don't seem like I can get enough edge out of the RPC. The only way is with too soft a reed. I tried the DC 3's and it seemed to be thick and dark but with some edge. Those reeds usually get a little harder after the break-in so we'll see. So far so good. I ordered the Kessler Pro to compare. Should be here this week.

ving

12-12-2005, 07:44 PM

Yes, that is one thing I have not liked about the RPC's--they lock you in to playing a softer reed.

12-15-2005, 02:43 PM

Jason,
have you had a chance to compare the Kessler OL7 and the JJ HR*?
Please let us know what you think.

Thanks!

TJS

12-16-2005, 11:16 AM

The Kessler should be here early next week. I will definitely let you know. However, the Jody Jazz HR is very nice. I find it difficult to believe that I will like the Kessler better.

TJS

12-16-2005, 07:14 PM

Can anybody compare this mouthpiece to a Morgan L? I'm considering a 8 or a Vintage 8. I am really digging the Jody Jazz so far but I am afraid to purchase it without having the chance to play a Morgan. I don't know if I will be able to get my hands on one before I would have to return the Jody Jazz.

12-16-2005, 08:16 PM

Can we add the Barone HR piece to the list? I'm glad to hear you're digging the JJ.

-88-

12-20-2005, 05:31 AM

I have a Jody HR 7* that is, well, very nice indeed. I am certainly not going to return it. Now I am thinking about getting one for my new altos too. I've got a Barone HR coming, so it will be interesting comparison.

TJS

12-20-2005, 04:33 PM

I got the Kessler today and will be comparing the 2 pieces tonight. I will probably record myself. Would it be helpful if I posted the recordings?

12-20-2005, 05:15 PM

Yes, that would be very helpful, very cool. Thanks, I've been looking forward to your comparison of these two.

TJS

12-21-2005, 01:46 AM

http://www.geocities.com/jasonshapiro/mpc.html

Check it out and let me know what you think. I can't believe what I am hearing when I listen back to the tape. Nothing like what I thought I was hearing when I was playing these. Very interesting.

TJS

12-21-2005, 02:42 AM

Jbroad572

12-21-2005, 08:05 AM

Jbroad572

12-21-2005, 08:06 AM

Oops. Try these.

RPC 115B w/RJS 2H filed (http://www.53stations.com/rpc.mp3)

Kessler OL7Pro w/DC3 (http://www.53stations.com/kessler.mp3)

Jody Jazz HR 7* w/RJS 2H filed (http://www.53stations.com/jjhr.mp3)
I like the RPC best, next the Jody JAzz, then the Kessler. I think you sound like you on each piece.

fieldmarshall

12-21-2005, 09:25 AM

I think the RPC sounded best. I play an OL7Pro, and have never tried RPC (I'm too cheap).

So TJS, what did you think? You said "Very interesting"; which did you prefer?

elo

12-21-2005, 09:56 AM

I like the RPC best. It adds a color to the soun very nice.

TJS

12-21-2005, 10:54 AM

I can't believe how similar they sound on the recording. While I was playing the Kessler was much darker, the Jody Jazz was livelier and the RPC was less edgy. I definitely preferred the Jody Jazz when playing them. When I listened back a bunch of times I preferred the RPC as well. I'm glad I recorded them. I'm also waiting on a Morgan Vintage. I think I'll return the Kessler today and compare the Jody Jazz and RPC again when the Morgan comes. I can't believe through all this I might end up with what I've been playing on all this time. Thanks for the input.

TJS

12-21-2005, 10:57 AM

I must add that even if I keep the RPC over purchasing the Jody Jazz that I am very impressed with the Jody Jazz. It hangs very closely with the RPC that is twice the price.

Rahspeak

12-21-2005, 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=TJS] I can't believe through all this I might end up with what I've been playing on all this time. QUOTE]

i've definitely had that happen too before. it's a good sign....it means you've been doing something right all along, and if you do end up keeping the RPC, you won't have to wonder if there's something better out there.

I liked the sound of the RPC best as well, although they were all similar. if you're not going to sell that RPC to me, don't sell it! :D

12-21-2005, 03:44 PM

Very intteresting. They do sound pretty similar....it must be you! It took me a couple of listens to hear the diffferences. I think the RPC and the JJ are pretty close to each other, the Kessler seems to have a little more pop, but it's hard to tell what's you and what's the mouthpiece. I actually think the JJ was a sweetness to the tone that is very nice. Thanks a lot for posting these, this is very informative.

TJS

12-21-2005, 04:03 PM

No problem. Sweetness is a good way to describe the JJ.

unbalancedaction

12-28-2005, 02:01 AM

FYI

For any manufacturer to have "Hard Rubber" in the name, i think the rubber compound only needs less than 15% rubber. Thats sad. Go to www.junkdude.com (http://www.junkdude.com) and check out the thing with Morgan's "vintage" line.

The JJs are a gimmick. DV??? Didn't they prove the Davinci Code incorrect? Every JJ that I've seen has has decent work, but really sh*tty material. If you want a nice "Hard Rubber" mouthpiece, go buy exactly that. A mouthpiece, with good hard rubber. Then, send it to somebody that can reface and modify the piece, and get it to speak. JJs are good intermediate mouthpieces in my opinion. Look at their target market.

If you want a good mouthpiece, that you plan to use for a long time, hopefully a career. But something of good quality, and have it adjusted properly, and use it. Forever.

The money you'll spend on a decent piece, plus a decent reface, is far less than changing your mouthpiece every week, or in some cases, every gig!!!

BobD

12-28-2005, 12:53 PM

I thought the JJ was clearer than the others. I liked it better than the RPC which I felt made the sound somewhat tubby in the low end. If you haven't bought the RPC I say save some bucks and buy the JJ.

12-28-2005, 04:42 PM

They all sound very similar to me on the recordings. The real question might be which one responds and plays the best for you? Also, how do they compare when playing more at the extremes? Subtoning to screaming? Which one handles the full range of expression the best?

AltoRedux

12-31-2005, 05:19 PM

I like my JJ HR on tenor. Didn't like it on alto. I got four for me and my teacher to try - 6,7 for alto and tenor. Also played the 7 tenor my teacher already had.

He liked the 7 alto and bought it. I liked it, but not as much as my vandoren A6. Incidently, I found I had to move a lot more air though the JJ, so initially I liked the sound. Once I went back to the VanDoren, I was moving a lot more air and was amazed at how good I sounded. We both though the 6 alto was a dog.

I liked the 7 tenor and bought it. My teacher liked some things on my 7 tenor, but liked other things on his 7 tenor. He decided to hang on to his, but he's talking about trying some out when he's next in NYC, to see if he can find a better one than his. I know another alto player who tried one and didn't like it, then tried another at the shop and loves it.

Anyway, I think the bottom line is; it's mostly you that makes the noise, and there are minute differences in mouthpieces that are probably more apparent to you than the audience cause you've got the damned thing clamped between your teeth. So go to the store (or order) a bunch of different pieces to try, buy one, go home and practice, and try to stay away from reading the mouthpiece ad's, cause you'll get GAS.

On a final note regarding mouthpieces. My dad played as a teen in concert bands, marching bands, and dance bands. And he did it on a Holton with a Frank Graham bakelite piece. If you've never heard of a Graham piece, it's cause there's only one in the world. It was the depression, and after buying the sax there was no money for a mouthpiece, so my machinist grand-dad measured up a few different ones and turned one out of bakelite at work. It worked just fine. Boy, I wish I had that piece now. The Holton I coud do without.

happy new year.

PS. I was impressed with JJ's trial policy and service. We had a long trial, as we were trading pieces back and forth depending on who was gigging when, and the folks at JJ were very accomodating.

PPS. And now I'm going to follow my own advice and go break in some new reeds!

TJS

01-01-2006, 01:58 PM

I finally got to try the 7* on a gig last night and decided to keep the mouthpiece. I really enjoyed playing it and felt that my tenor sound was as good as it's been in a while. It added a little core to my sound that I haven't been able to get with the RPC. It doesn't seem quite as loud but hung pretty good with no mic. I will probably end up selling the RPC if I find myself not using it.

MojoBari

01-01-2006, 03:20 PM

I think doing recordings is good to teach yourself that what is coming out will be a little different than what you think you heard. After that, I do not think they are worth much. They do not capture how hard you may be working to get what was recorded. I place more emphasis on which set-up feels and responds the best while playing. The player's joy will come out in the playing. The play-it-on-a-gig test is the best.

I think you could take any of the 3 mouthpieces and record the same one 3 times and get as much variation as heard between the 3 different mouthpieces. Also, you previously complained of squeaks on the RPC. None of these takes are testing the squeak stability of these MPs.

I would recommend you keep the RPC for 1-2 years and pull it out again. You may end up liking it a lot and it will save you a lot of search time looking for yet another mouthpiece. A lot of players wish they had not sold their previous "players". Or it just may confirm that it is not right for you. Then sell it.

TJS

01-02-2006, 01:05 AM

Thanks for your insight Keith.

Claudio Marcolino

01-03-2006, 04:12 PM

Hi folks,

A question about tenor JJ HR ?

I love my mpc, but to play in tune I have to place it almost falling from the neck... It seems to me that it is almost half-tone above of others mpc's. Is it the same with you guys? I told Jody about that and he said that it is common...

Appreciate your comments...

Claudio Marcolino
Brazil

PS: BTW, I tried it with several reeds and ligatures and the results were the same...

SAXISMYAXE

01-03-2006, 04:32 PM

I use mine on a variety of Tenor makes/models and have had no such problems. What horn are you using with yours?

Claudio Marcolino

01-03-2006, 07:33 PM

Hi Mike,

Tks for your response. My horn is an Yamaha YTS-62-II. It is ok with two metal Links STM (6* and 7) and a Beechler I've tested...
It seems to me the bore diameter is larger than it used to be...

But, Jody's support was wonderful... He offered me to return the MPC or to choose another one. His customer support is great, btw.

But, you know, I live in Brazil and it's not that easy to send and receive goods from here...

I'll try a bit more!

Claudio Marcolino

PS: I've already replaced my neck cork...

Michael Ward

01-04-2006, 03:49 PM

Claudio I have a 7* one arriving tomorrow to try. I have a V1 tenor so I'll let you know how it tunes on the crook. cheers

Claudio Marcolino

01-04-2006, 05:28 PM

Michael,

I'll be waiting your feeling...

Tks,

Claudio Marcolino
Brazil

AltoRedux

01-05-2006, 05:22 PM

Claudio comment is really timely.

I was practicing with 3/4's of my sax quartet last night (weather difficulties) and we had to play sharp because the tenor's switched to a JJ hard rubber and he couldn't pull off enough without the mouthpiece literally falling off the horn. He thought it was a combination of a slightly bigger bore on the JJ and the fact that it's shank is shorter than the selmer. I mentioned the idea's about trying to puff up the cork with a hot cloth, or using teflon plumbers tape.

When he showed me how the piece wobbled on cork, it reminded me that I'd gone thru the same thing with my new tenor JJ HR. Teflon tape is what I used to fix the problem. However, I don't use it any more, because I swear I've got my mouthpiece pushed about 1/4 inch plus further in. So what I'm wondering is if going to a big chamber mouthpiece, where I felt I had to work really hard, resulted in my tightening up the emboucher to the point where I started to sharpen up? Anybody ever have a similar experience? Claudio, maybe all you need to do is put some tape on for a while till you get used to the piece?

cheers, John.

Rahspeak

01-05-2006, 05:47 PM

on my alto I have that problem. I play a vintage buescher mouthpiece for classical and a vandoren V16 for jazz. the buescher has a significantly smaller bore than the V16 and i find it difficult to switch between the two, especially going from classical to jazz because the buescher piece compresses the neck cork even further. so I just tear off a small piece of music paper, wrap it around the cork, and the V16 becomes perfectly stable. i suppose a piece of tape would be more convenient in that you don't have to keep changing it each time you practice, but the moral of the story is some kind of shim, whatever you choose to use, will work well and eliminate your problem, allowing you to play the piece to its full potential.

Claudio Marcolino

01-06-2006, 01:00 PM

Hi John and Rahspeak,

Tks for sharing your thoughts...
I'm already using papers and some sorts of tapes... It goes reasonably...
But, it seems to me a bit undesirable or maybe unconfortable... I always have the feeling that mpc will fall down...

Thanks again!

Claudio Marcolino
Brazil

Michael Ward

01-06-2006, 02:33 PM

Claudio yes the piece does have to be pulled off quite a way on my V1. If it was going to be my main piece I'd have to have my crook re corked as it is quite insececure. On playing it off and on for an hour or so this morning it plays ok with my DC 3's and could probably go to a 3 1/2 but I'm obviously happier with my V16 T75 which I love but is a totally different animal. I wish the shank was a bit longer and maybe the tuning will change a little with more familiarity with the chamber. For now it has put me off a bit. I much prefer the HR though to the ESP which was underpowered for me even with the little baffle in compared to my V16. I have the JJ HR alto 6 which I liked straight away probably because I play a Lamberson M and they are both Meyer type pieces, it goes on the cork much,much better than the tenor too. The JJ HR 6 alto is very nice but not a Lamberson which has superior rubber and more colours but a lot more money too nevertheless it's a very good alto piece. Cheers

BobD

01-06-2006, 03:52 PM

Claudio Marcolino

01-09-2006, 02:06 PM

Hi folks,

ANy other tip/tought about Jody Jazz HR?

Tks!

Claudio
Brazil

SAXISMYAXE

01-09-2006, 09:47 PM

If this piece needs to be pulled far out on the cork on a VI then it probably will need to be pulled even further out on a larger bore horn like a JK or Conn. Has anyone tried this piece on a 10M or SX90R?
This piece works just fine on my big bore Tenors: Conn 10Ms, 30Ms, Martin Handcraft and The Martin etc.

BobD

01-10-2006, 10:33 AM

This piece works just fine on my big bore Tenors: Conn 10Ms, 30Ms, Martin Handcraft and The Martin etc.

That's good to hear as my HR Wanne piece plays sharp on a 10M. It has a medium chamber butis pretty short so I have to pull it WAY out on the cork.

AltoRedux

01-14-2006, 03:50 PM

Just a quick update on my previous post. I had a lesson last night and mentioned my theory to my teacher. He said that he had the same experience when he went to the bigger piece. He actually went back to his old piece for a while as he found the new one so frustrating. He said that it's common to play sharp on a new bigger piece, until your emboucher adjusts. So hang in there. It seems to me it took about 3 weeks before I got the piece pushed in to where it should be.

John.

saxobari

01-20-2006, 12:33 AM

I am in process of maybe trading my second tenor mouthpiece which is a STM Otto Link 7 for a Jody Jazz HR 7*,what would I expect in sound difference and specialy in the playing the Jody HR7*?
Thanks,,,, Mario

gary

01-20-2006, 12:37 AM

Jebtha

01-21-2006, 03:04 AM

I've just received three JJ pieces for a trial today, two of them HR*, so I read the above with interest. Thanks for all the info.

Brief history is this: I played a Dukoff D8 for years and used harder reeds (3.5+) in order to make it NOT sound like a Dukoff. The reeds were destroyed by any fff or altissimo playing, and I gave up six months ago and went back to my old Meyer 6M. Having resisted tenor mpc GAS (until now), it was my only other option. I am overblowing the Meyer a lot, thus the JJ trial.

I have HR*'s in a 7* and an 8 and a JJ Classic in an 8. My immediate first impressions (after an hour) are: the HR*'s have a big, fat tone, almost no edge with a Vandoren blue box 3; like the Meyer but much louder and not overblown. Intonation on the 7* is good over the whole horn (a Mark VI). The 8 wants to blow sharp above E2 or so, but I like its sound a bit better than the 7*. I think it's nothing that can't be cured by long tone work.

I have to withhold judgement on the Classic b/c the spoiler wasn't shipped; without the spoiler it isn't blowing freely yet. I think my embouchure has settled into HR mode from playing the Meyer. (Of course the Classic isn't metal but it's got more in common design-wise with metal than HR.) I want to try it with the spoiler and a variety of reeds before deciding, though.

My assumption, possibly wrong, is that it should be qualitatively similar to a Link without the spoiler and to a Berg with the spoiler; is that way off? I am playing a metal Berg 130/1 on bari and it's perfect for me.

I am sure I need to spend some time with all three before deciding -- their trial policy is two weeks; it's nice to have that long to work it out.

-Jebtha

**Note added in proof: For whatever reason, the HR*'s have more edge with a harder reed (Vandoren blue box 3.5).

potex

01-29-2006, 05:38 AM

I just got a JJ HR 6* and mine also plays sharp. I have to have it wobling on the end of my MK VII and it still plays a little sharp!

Michael Ward

01-29-2006, 11:42 AM

The one I've got ( and it's up for sale) is a new JJ 7* HR*. Have you tried it with RJS reeds? It helped with the tuning. My DC's were useless on my MarkV1 and I couldn't get the octaves in tune which was new to me. The more you play it the tuning gets better.

gary

01-29-2006, 11:56 AM

I wonder if you guys just don't need more time regarding the intonation problem. As you know, you might be able to get a good first impression of a mpc but you really need to take some time to adjust to it. I tried out a JJ HR and had no problems with the intonation whatsoever. However, I had been playing an ESP for the previous 2 years ;) which probably had similar characteristics. Meaning, how a mpc responds for you is enfluenced by its predecessor.

Regarding the spoiler, I have played three spoiler mpc's, 2 ESP's and a Runyon Custom, and have eventually come to the conclusion for myself that whatever sounds I was looking for were actually somewhere between what I got with the spoiler and without it.

For example, without the spoiler, my tenor ESP just didn't give me quite the presence I needed to hear myself well in an amplified band, but with the spoiler, my sound was too shrill. So I've pretty much decided to forget about the spoilers in the future and whatever mpc's I play are going to be self-sufficient. Any extra characteristics it might need, I need to work on providing myself.

saxobari

01-29-2006, 01:59 PM

Gary,when you said compactness to the sound,I don't reall understand the meaning of what you are trying to say! Is it less rich then the Otto Link sound?
Regards ,Mario

gary

01-29-2006, 02:07 PM

Gary,when you said compactness to the sound,I don't reall understand the meaning of what you are trying to say! Is it less rich then the Otto Link sound? Regards ,MarioNo, not less rich, just that it has a bit of a focused buzz to it. That's not good or bad, just a bit different. One really needs to simply give one a blow. JJ has a reasonable try-out policy.

saxobari

01-29-2006, 02:13 PM

Gary I am waiting for one JJ HR7* that I bought from a guy on this group,he really gave me a good deal on,so I am very anxious to see how it plays.I am back on my STM 7 Link which is just a really nice mouthpiece,but wanted to play a HR for a change!I ll let you know,how it is when I get it,,maybe this comin week,hopefully! Thanks Garry
Mario

gary

01-29-2006, 02:16 PM

Sure, Mario. I hope you enjoy it. It will be a little different from your Link but it's a good sounding mouthpiece and it plays really well and easily.

Rubel

01-29-2006, 10:51 PM

I've been pretty happy with my Jody Jazz HR* 8* for the past 6 months, but the other day I tried it compared to an old link (the same hard rubber link they make today, just from the 80's) which was refaced by adam niewood and the Jody piece got blown out of the water. Also, the side rails and tip rails of the jody looked like a before and after compared to the niewood link. It reminded me of a specific before and after I saw on his site. The jody's are finished ok, but they're far from great. But overall, I think it is the best non-custom piece on the market for how much they cost.

Dave

SAXISMYAXE

01-29-2006, 11:00 PM

Dave,
That's really strange. I have the exact same MP and facing, and the table, tip and side rails are outstanding by any standard. Granted I ordered mine directly from Jody who hand selected one for me after a long talk with him, and when they first came on the market.
I guess it is no different than any other MP maker, not every single one is a 10.

saxobari

01-31-2006, 11:21 AM

Received my JJ HR 7*,last night !
I had the chance of playing just half an houre,but will spend a few houres this morning to really know the feel of it!
At first it is a complete different world of the Lebayle(Jazz),and the STM Link both 7 . it has been a long time since I have played such a different colour sound on tenor!
Will let you know more later today!
Regards Mario

Jebtha

01-31-2006, 11:27 PM

Just to follow up, I ended up going with the HR* 8. First impressions posted above ended up being the correct ones. WRT tuning, it's in tune when placed a little further out than the Meyer (0.5 cm or so) but not *way* out.

Hope it works out for you, Mario.

saxobari

02-01-2006, 10:41 AM

Allo Jebtah,so you ended up with the 8 *.I think that the 8 must be reall nice!
I spend couple of houres on the 7 *,it is a very differnt then the lebayle ,and also the Link STM.Now even my Link sounds a little too bright compare to the JJ.I never imagine the coulour difference that those JJ has,,,very deep sound.
Also after beeing more confortable with can play quiet loud! I imagine the 8 you have must be perfect! I bought mind from aguy from this group so had not much choice in opening,but I'm happy with the 7.I will get a good ligature later.I heard your sound clips on bari Jebtah,,it sounds really good ! You have real good sound and like your technique,you really are a good player! I also play baritone,bought a new Selmer S.A.80 5 years ago,bari was my first instrument,but for the last year and a half I spend most of my time on tenor.
I will probably sell my tenor Jazz metal Lebayle mpc,and will keep my Link for a while,but the Lebayle will go,,I prefer a much darker sound with character! The Lebayle is powerfull,easy piece to blow,with a modern sound.What do you have for your baritone mpc?I want to get something different for my bari!
Regards,Mario

Jebtha

02-02-2006, 02:53 AM

Allo, Mario.. The 8 gives me the HR sound I want with a little more edge and volume than the Meyer I was using. Until six months ago I played a Dukoff, and had a sound that was either 'clean and modern' or 'much too bright'. As I get older I am more interested in the hard rubber sound, with less edge and more 'body'. I am not sure I could play a metal mouthpiece on tenor anymore; my embouchure has changed a lot.

I would have been happy with the 7* also, by the way. Not much different with the 8, just a little bit more volume.

Thanks for your kind comments on the bari stuff. On bari I am playing a Berg 130/1; it's good for getting sounds from mellow to bright depending on the reed. I have just been playing bari since the summer and having huge fun with it. Next time I get a paying gig I'll buy a better microphone to make better quality recordings! (The last gig bought the new mouthpiece:))

Good luck with everything.

armada1905

05-26-2006, 02:38 PM

here is a jody jazz hr 9*(125) sound sample...i recorded it with my computers default speakers , so it sounds terrible...maybe i should buy a microphone :)

http://rapidshare.de/files/21523021/jodyjazz1.mp3.html

saxobari

05-26-2006, 04:45 PM

Garry,how are you?
You said that you own now on tenor the ESP,what do you think compare to the HR JJ?
I am still very much playing just on my JJ HR 7,and sometimes thinking of that ESP! The thing is I really like the dark sound,and If the ESP is brighter then the HR ,well i will forget about ESP.
I hear that it is more on the bright side!
I also got this Morgan L 7 tenor that is ,and even that mpc seems brighter then my JJ,Morgan L are suppose to be dark,,I don't think they are,that is why i am trading it,for something darker when i find one!!
Thanks Saxobari

OOlufoks

05-27-2006, 01:01 PM

Saxobari,
have both a JJ HR* and an ESP, both 7*. I can make a short recording of both for you if you want.
I'll describe the JJ HR* and ESP this way. The HR* is darker on the low end of the horn, and brighter on the higher end of the horn.

If you want a Chris Potter type sound, with a little more brightness , then go with the HR*. If you want something smooth like the recent Branford Marsalis recordings on tenor, go with the ESP. It is like a modern link STM, but more smooth and easier to control.

saxobari

05-28-2006, 10:51 AM

Oolufoks,I would sure like to hear the recording!
Thanks also for describing the sound of those JJ's,
So, will you send me recordings?
Thanks Saxobari

OOlufoks

05-28-2006, 03:36 PM

Saxobari, you can send me a PM with your e-mail.

boman

08-14-2006, 02:28 PM

2 weeks ago I bought a Jody Jazz 9* HR* and I've been using several reeds with it. Did anyone find a good match for this mouthpiece?

I've been using :

V16 - 2,5 and 3
Rico Royal - 3
Rico - 2,5
Lavoz - medium soft

I found the Lavoz to be the best match up till now and maybe the rico 2,5.
Are there some reeds I should try also?

Overall I like the sound of the HR* a lot and I'm glad I bought it. My other piece is a metal V16 T95

Thnx

08-15-2006, 09:36 AM

I like Vandoren traditional, Rico Select Jazz and Superial DC the best with my JJ HR*.

Java and V16 are nice though. But they seem to differ much in sound for each single reed. And not so full and warm sounding as the others.

One thing I like with the HR* is that I can play a harder reed strength than I can on my other pieces in the same opening. It gives a more singing and full tone.

Regards,
Jan

Atanas

02-04-2010, 11:08 AM

Me too!

Atanas

02-11-2010, 04:43 PM

Try Hemke 3!I have JJ HR 7* on tenor,6M on alto,Hemke are perfect to deal with the brightness of JJ.If you like Hemke!

hartt97

02-11-2010, 06:58 PM

I never got on with JJs pieces but a really beautiful tenor player here in NY plays on a HR opened up to an 11 by Jody:

http://www.noahpreminger.com/

RegSopAlto

02-11-2010, 08:20 PM

There must be something special about the piece. Every time I try something else {my link,berg, etc} within a few days I'm back to the HR. I guess I've found my mouthpiece.

albertur

02-11-2010, 08:51 PM

Are there some reeds I should try also?

I found the Rigotti reeds (2,5) to be the best for me and my tenor (Martin)
I think they put a fair deal of brightness.

Cheers

ansyf125

02-11-2010, 11:20 PM

I tried one, and loved it; if they had a more open one in store, I would've surely bought it. Its nice, versatile, and has amazing projection. It can easily be smooth and buttery, and edgy and buzzy while tearing up a rock band. I stand behind all of Jody's products, each one is amazing.

jazzcat58

02-11-2010, 11:34 PM

JJHRs are nice pieces, i had one [an 8] sold it back along it to me was a reliable piece that had a smooth sound to it , but could push a bit if needed.
I moved it on as it was not quite the sound i was really after and i did not want it sat around doing nothing..a good go to from a yamaha 5c or similar.

02-12-2010, 08:56 AM

There must be something special about the piece. Every time I try something else {my link,berg, etc} within a few days I'm back to the HR. I guess I've found my mouthpiece.

Yes, I have it the same way. Ok, I sometimes miss a little brilliance and edge. But I always come back to my JJ HR*. I love the warm sound. Lately I have played my Phil Tone Link, a V16 T9 and Java T75. All great mpc's. The Java is my favorite. But now I am back to the JJ.

Maybe it is the feeling of "true hard rubber"? The material feels different than the other HR pieces I have. I know material dosn't matter to the sound. But.....

Btw, for me the JJ has the right physical size too. The beak has the height I love. So RegSopAlto, I hear you ;-)

Kind regards,
Jan