SELMER LONDON!!??????

[TenorSaxe]

I Recently attended a music camp at the University of New Hampshire and there I met a person with a very old silver horn that looked worn down, when I asked him about it he said it was a Selmer and was very proud of it, when I looked at the horn, it looked like no Selmer I had ever seen, and at the Bottom of the Bell in the front there was an engraving saying it was made by Selmer London?? Who is SELMER LONDON??!! Im guessing that its probably a stencil horn, but does anyone have this information for sure?

[Dave dix]

Selmer london could be a Chech made horn.
Dave

[singlereed]

Selmer London had horns made in Czechoslavakia, USA and Japan, at least. Generally student to intermediate quality, but they didn't actually make horns, so it just depended on what they were stencilling at the time.

[bruce bailey]

There was also a Selmer "Major" made in Germany.

[Pete]

I'll see if I can run down the entire list:

* Selmer Pennsylvania Special (Stamped "Made in Czechoslovakia"): Keilwerth-made.
* Selmer Pennsylvania: Made at different times by Karl Meyer, Pierret and others. Generally stamped "Selmer London".
* Selmer Bundy/Bundy Special (Stamped "Made in Germany"): Made by Keilwerth.
* Selmer Adolphe Sax: Some actually made from parts from the inventor of the saxophone's son. Generally made at the old Sax plant.
* Selmer Manhattan: Made by Martin.
* Selmer New York: Made by Conn, generally, some models by Buescher.
* Selmer American: Read: Selmer New York.
* Selmer Pennsylvania Super: Made by Yanagisawa.

Apocryphal: Selmer Bandmaster/Soundmaster: Allegedly clones of the Selmer SBA with Selmer-produced bodies, but keywork from other sources. I somewhat doubt the existence of these.

[singlereed]

I think Czech means Amati or Corton, rather than JK made. certainly, they are standard E European agricultural finish horns!

[bruce bailey]

BTW - The German "Major" was made in Dusseldorf in the early 60s when I lived there. They had a full line of all band instruments.

[Pete]

I think Czech means Amati or Corton, rather than JK made. certainly, they are standard E European agricultural finish horns!
The original Keilwerths were made in Czechoslovakia. They moved to "real" Germany after WWII :D.

[Rodders]

I have an option on a cheap "London Selmer" with Karl Meyer engraved on the bell... I have been kind of looking for a budget vintage horn for a bit and this one kind of had me curious. Is this thing just good for a paper weight or is it worth a closer look??

Cheers
Rod