Ear training with PerfectPitch.com

[electricninja]

Has anyone used the Perfect Pitch product successfully? Or unsuccessfully?

Also, what methods have you guys and gals used to train your ear for similar results?

[Agent27]

I came across this last night. I'm typically skeptical of these kinds of things. Howerever, they do have a money back gaurantee and are in good standing with the BBB.

I too would be interested if anybody here has any personal experience with them.

[Lenny]

I wasted 100 bucks on this thing , and I don't know if it would have gotton me somewhere had I stuck with the exercises. It was interesting, mostly centered around developing a memory & association with the "color" & feeling of various tones.
I don't know if it was bull or not. I never stuck with it and I'm not sure what good it would have done anyway. Relative pitch seems more important. I just started working with something called "the tuning CD" that seems much more promising. If I can find the tapes I sell them to you cheap.

[electricninja]

Lenny,

I might be more interested in buying off your perfectpitch.com set, if you're interested.

[MB-913]

If I only can play saxophone + know nothing about piano/keyboard + don't have a keyboard. Is there any problem to use this book?

What instrument they use on the demon exercise (CD)? Piano?

[soultwist]

I´d say your better of buying a keyboard instead...

[Lenny]

electricninja, I think I just through th tapes away along time ago. I can't find them.
If you just want to improve your intonation I've just begun working with "the tuning CD" (look it up under tone production and I think its pretty good. For real ear training I don't know but I think relative pitch is much more important than perfect pitch.

[Jacob aka collegefresh]

Being able to tell how a line is moving is very important, so relative pitch is very important. As for earlier comments. It's always important to have a keyboard, but use your sax as well as the piano. It helps in remembering sounds, when playing songs and stuff. When you have to sing things back to yourself. Singing is a very important key in ear training. You should be able to sing anything you want to play.

[mpcbliss]

I have the original course.
Apparently the new one is slightly different (and more expensive: mine was about $100, and now they're about $138 I think)
It does work, but here's why I never got good at it (and this is the BIG SECRET he doesn't put in his ads): YOU NEED A PARTNER!!!!!!
I like doing things on my own, and so after testing the concept on my own (yes, one can with greater sweat do it by oneself I believe) so that I saw what was going on and noted clear success, I just let it slide.
Doing it alone was too awkward.
I can see that it would be quite easy if one had a sampler and sequencer, however......that was what I decided to eventually do, and which I've not yet gotten around to.
As to the question of needing a keyboard, etc, the whole concept requires each instrumentalist to USE HIS/HER OWN INSTRUMENT while training....a sax player uses sax, a flutist a flute, etc.
I'll sell it for $55 INCLUDING SHIPPING anywhere in USA.......this is for the original course, with cassettes and booklet.
It's been sitting around for years, but really only listened to once.
Buy it with a friend or two and split the cost.......everyone who heard I'd bought it tried to get me to tell them the concept behind it, so you can
probably find some interested partners.
If interested, email mpcbliss@yahoo.com
Please, tho......I cannot answer questions about the method, as I don't even remember the nuances.
Thanks.

[werkinsnake]

Actually, I recieved the perfect pitch course last Christmas. It does work, but as previously stated it is a pain to work with, and not the easiest thing in the world. However most good things are not easy. But it must be working because a song will come on on the radio and I will jump up and say, "That song is keyed in G". My friends will confirm this by going to the nearest instrument and playing the chord. It's weird, but by using this program my relative pitch has developed by itself and I have not even listened to the relative pitch cd's. $138 is a bit pricy, but a good investment. I'm sure that most of us have spent more money on a mouthpiece that we've later replaced with a cheaper model later on.

[Billy The Fish]

I highly recommend the perfectpitch.com material, but as many have already stated, handing over your cash does not immediately give you perfect pitch :wink: . If only !! But the thing is, that is what most people seem to want with anything. Life doesn't work that way.

The course may not be cheap, but nothing else has come close to getting me on the road to perfect pitch - this does work if you put in the effort. The good thing is that, whilst progress is gradual, I saw benefits within the first week, and the improvements continue to come nice and steadily. Oh, and you don't need a partner for it to work. I used it alone perfectly adequately.

I would also endorse their other major product, The Complete Relative Pitch Training Course. Whilst it isn't cheap either, you certainly get value for your money - it comes on 41 CDs !! :shock: Relative pitch is also going to be of far more general value than perfect pitch for most, particularly for improvising musicians. People shouldn't confuse the two. Perfect pitch is not the next level up from relative pitch. They are two completely different skills, and complement each other (but if you only have one, relative pitch is the essential skill - on it's own perfect pitch is little more than a parlour trick). The analogy David Lucas Burge uses is a good one. Consider an untrained ear to be like watching television on a fuzzy set in black and white. relative pitch makes the picture clear and watchable. Perfect pitch turns it from black and white into colour. The colour on it's own is not much good if you still can't make out the picture.

I use the Relative Ear Training CDs in the car all the time - heaven help anybody in the car with me as I am doing the interval singing exercises :twisted: . There are cheaper methods of training the ear for sure, but you pay your money and take your choice. If cheaper options work for you, go for it. I bought the relative pitch course using their option to pay interest-free over a year. It comes to little more than the cost of one music lesson a month and I get to keep the 41 CDs and the end of the 12 months (and they will be used for far more than a year. Ear training never stops). For me, that is value for money.

Usual caveats apply (I am not affiliated in any way, blah blah blah :D )

Edited to remedy glaring typos

Billy The Fish

[werkinsnake]

Well said Billy.