Kessler Custom - Any reviews yet?

[Mark5047]

Hi!
Well, these have been out for over a month now. Is anyone ready to provide a review of the new line of Kessler Custom saxes? Also maybe compare it to other horns you are currently playing.
Thanks in advance!

[retromom]

Hi Mark,
I bought a Kessler Custom Alto about two weeks ago and I love it.
I'm a late Bloomer and I"ve not been playing the sax for very long so I don't have a whole lot of knowledge BUT I can tell you that my teacher was so impressed by it that she called and ordered one for herself and the band director at my daughters elementary school was equally as impressed :D
Vicki

[Dave Dolson]

Mark: I urge you to look beyond the main title of the sub-section. There are many posts about Kessler's Custom saxophones. DAVE

[Mark5047]

Dave,

Thanks for the info - I did look at some of the other threads and for the most part there were only one or two reviews (yours included) but I was specifically looking for some comparitive information between Kessler Custom and other instruments - I realize that even that is subjective, but it might help determine the type of sound and overall quality of the instrument. The few people that I read the reviews were mostly favorable.
With his very generous return policy, I don't see much risk in trying it out, but its nice to perform due diligence.

Thanks again! I have gotten good information from you by reading earlier posts.

Mark

[Dave Dolson]

Mark: Fair enough - the reviews did not do comparisons, as I recall.

I don't have much in comparisons. Several months ago, I played two new tenors at another store - a new Cannonball and a new Yamaha Z. I the store's high-end mouthpiece and one reed. Frankly, I was not impressed enough to make a purchase and I put aside my thoughts about stepping up (down?) to a tenor. Besides, the price was high enough that it wasn't attractive as an experiment.

Then, I saw Dave Kessler's generous return-policy (I probably should have known about it before this, but the other horns I bought from him were play-tested before the purchase and returns were not in the equation) so I signed up.

I'm glad that I did. The Kessler Custom (with his upgraded mouthpiece) plays better than either of the two tenors I'd previously tried (at least from memory) and the price was such that I wasn't risking a couple of grand to find out if I liked tenor - or not.

The only other horn I have to compare is a Buescher TT C-Mel, that plays nicely. Yet, the robustness and resonance of Kessler's tenor is far superior to my C-Mel (I know, I know . . .), plus I can play familiar material in familiar keys. Hope that helps. DAVE

[SaxDave]

I can't really give a comparison to my Custom Tenor, as the last time I played tenor on a regular basis was 10 years ago. But I can tell you that the build quality and key layout remind me of the Mark 7 I played all those years ago.


I've had my Custom for about two weeks now and except for one small problem (the high A is muffled somehow) I love the sax. I haven't really talked to Kessler about this, but I'm hoping we can fix this without having to ship it back (maybe some small adjustment I can make??)



Dave

[dexter_fan]

Mark
thanks for opening this thread, I am also looking forward to read comparative details about those saxes and in the thread I started before you I didn't get any.

In particular I am considering as second tenor, besides my B&S 2001, the Kessler custom along with P.Mauriat 66R and Jupiter Artist 886G models.
Price of the Kessler is less than half of the P. Mauriat and about 40% cheaper than the Jupiter.
As aesthetics go, I am not crazy about the other two, I'd rather choose the simplicity of the Kessler gold lacquer. But this will never be a decisive factor for me. Sound is what I care the most and, given that I won't find a store that carries all of them, I won't be able to go and test myself, so I am hoping to gather information here....

[BigDaddyJ]

Yo dexter_fan,

I own a Mauriat 66R, I have tried a Jupiter 889, and I will be trying a Kessler Custom in a couple of weeks (I'm visiting my buddy who has one).

Here's the low down on the Mauriat and the Jupiter.

Ergonomics: Very similar feel. Both based on the Selmer layout.
Intonation: Again, both have great intonation.
Tone: Here's the big difference. I am a Martin fanatic, due to the TONE of the Martin saxes I've owned. Big, dark, powerful...... The Muariat has this in spades, where as the few Jupiters I've tried (they seem to be very consistent) remind me of Yamahas. What can I say?....The Yamaha sound just doesn't do it for me. B&S tenors were a very close second to the Mauriat for me. The B&S tenors I've tried had a great sound, but the Mauriat tenors are the closest in sound to my Martin I've ever found. So for me it was an easy decision, P. Mauriat 66R all the way!!!!!

I know it'll be a few weeks, but I'll post my impressions of the Mauriat/Kessler comparison.

later

Joel

[rispoli]

Thanks Joel. I look forward to read from your test with the Kessler.

[dexter_fan]

Yo dexter_fan,

I own a Mauriat 66R, I have tried a Jupiter 889, and I will be trying a Kessler Custom in a couple of weeks

Joel



Joel, thanks a lot. I look forward to read from your test with the Kessler too! I think my tastes are similar to yours given that I also love Martin, B&S and Keilwerth type of sound.

My guess is that also the Kessler will be Yamaha-Yanagisawa sounding type, given that it is a copy of the Yani. Given its price, half of the Mauriat, I might choose that in the end (and eventually return it if the tone turns out too weak for my tastes). I'll check what your impressions are.

Thanks again

[BigDaddyJ]

Sorry guys, I didn't get to try my buddy's Kessler. Busy weekend with his wedding. Since he lives about 8 hours out from me, I don't forsee me playing his horn anytime soon.

later

Joel

[goodsax]

I am a Martin fanatic, due to the TONE of the Martin saxes I've owned. Big, dark, powerful...but the Mauriat tenors are the closest in sound to my Martin I've ever found. So for me it was an easy decision, P. Mauriat 66R all the way!!!!!...JoelI too find the sound from a Martin unlike anything else I've tried, on both alto and tenor. After reading the above quoted excerpt from your 6/12 post, a little late, I couldn't help thinking, if you're so set on the Martin tone, why are you searching for something else? What Martin weakness compels you to find an alternative? Why not find a The Martin (model of choice) in top notch condition and stick with that? I'm facing the same, or similar, situation and I'd like to compare notes with you about this. Thanks...Rob

[BigDaddyJ]

I actually have a killer The Martin tenor. When I first tried the Mauriat, I actually wasn't even considering buying a new horn. Tim over at Sax Alley had some tenor mpc's that I wanted to try. He mentioned that I should try these new horns that he really liked. It was actually about the second time he asked me, months later, that I actually tried a Mauriat. I was pretty impressed; but the horn was a little out of adjustment, and I really wasn't looking for a new tenor. Months again later, Tim called me again about 3 new Mauriats that I HAD to try. No prob....Tim's a great guy, and I could spend an afternoon playing all his horns and mpc's. So I drove out to Sax Alley and tried the horns out. Holy cow! I was shocked. I found one of the Mauriats did out play my Martin (which has bested every other horn I'd tried on the market). About a 2 weeks later I called Tim about the new rolled tone hole model. He still hadn't adjusted the horn I had commited to buying, so I drove out to try the prototype 66R. Damned if it didn't sound even bigger than the other tenor I had picked out. The rest is history... I now own what I consider to be one of the finest tenors (P. Mauriat 66R) I've ever played on. Another reason is the ergonomics. I recently started practicing in the 3-5 hour range again. The Martin made my right hand hurt around the base of my thumb.

later

Joel

[dexter_fan]

Sorry guys, I didn't get to try my buddy's Kessler. Busy weekend with his wedding. Since he lives about 8 hours out from me, I don't forsee me playing his horn anytime soon.Joel


That's too bad for me, I was looking forward to read your impressions. You sound very competent and for what I read in your posts I believe our sax-tastes are similar.

I don't need to be persuaded about the excellence of the P.Mauriat anymore, I read enough to be sure enough about it (also listened the mp3 recordings of K. Ridenhour : thanks, by the way!). It is just the fact that the Kessler custom costs less than half of it what is making the choice for my second sax tougher.
I am looking for a second tenor sax that is equally or comparably good as my B&S 2001 so that it won't be left in its case most of the time. I am looking into something that I'll be happy to alternate with the B&S (to me very Selmer-sounding), comparably good but different...

I am nearly sure the P.Mauriat would accomplish that, for the Kessler I have more reserves because I haven't read enough reviews (as can be expected from such a new product...) to persuade me yet.