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bkiser
11-18-2004, 10:25 PM
NECKSTRAP! I mean, its truly awful. Plastic hook...strap feels like cheap sandpaper on the back of the neck...I would go on and on if the horn were not so INCREDIBLE! :D

I received my R1 Jazz gold alto this afternoon. Got great service from Mathew at Saxforte and saved myself several hundred dollars over buying it from the UK or Germany. And, got it in 1 day! Horn was packaged fantastically.

First impressions- the feel of the horn is somewhere between Selmer and Yamaha. Not quite as 'soft' feeling as a Selmer, but not as 'mechanical' feeling as the Yamaha. Coming from a Selmer alto, I immediately felt comfortable. The left hand pinky cluster is a little awkward going from B to C#, but I suspect my fingers will learn the new movements quicky.

Playing- VERY responsive with just a slight amount of resistance. I was originally concerned that the horn would play like a Keilwerth (I have a JK soprano which I love, but dont like the alto and tenor as much), but the larger bore requires no extra effort to play. To me, the larger bore is only evident in the tone. Tone is more spread and the Ref 54 I played recently and sounds nothing like a Selmer. More like a really good old Conn, but with WAY more punch. I was concerned that the R1 Jazz model might be too dark, but that is definitely not the case. Overall, the few mpcs I have tried so far sound brighter on the R&C than on my SA80(1). For classical work, I generally played a tweaked Hite artist model on the S80. It was flexible enough for quartet work and some solo bop stuff, but didnt really cut enough for lead alto work in a jazz ensemble. Well, on the R&C, it just plain rips and cutting through a section would not be a problem.

All in all, this is WAY more horn than I am player, but it makes me want to be a better player!

Brian
Macon, GA 8-)

xuanvu
11-18-2004, 10:36 PM
Congrat. on your new horn, I can't wait 'til my R1 Jazz sop. gets here! Anyway, for the neckstrap, if you haven't got one yet, I recommend the Brancher, from Saxforte also. It's a very well built strap, comfortable and very secure.

Kenny.

jjgold
11-18-2004, 11:10 PM
Brian..Matt (sorry Matt, I know that tech is not your forte :D )does an ok job of setup on the horn. But it does get jostled and stuff in traffic. Take the horn to your rep and have them go through it. then see how it plays :twisted: . Also, I am not sure that it is a brilliant sound that we hear. i think the horn projects that much more. When my tech played it I heard that fat luscious bottom I heard only when I played it into a door or something.

bkiser
11-18-2004, 11:50 PM
Unfortunately, I am in the saxophone wasteland down here in central GA, so I will probably play it a bit before packing it back up. Who did you use for setup? The only "issue" I have noticed so far is a little bit of slop in the octave mechanism.

I havent played more than about 3 hours of alto since 1995, but I just played an altissimo octave (chromatically) on the first shot on a closed mpc with a 2.5 reed...unreal. This horn really seems to have it all- fat bottom end, rich middle, and singing (or screaming if you want) top end. I am sure part of my elation is "new horn syndrome", but thats much better than thinking "I just paid $$ for this piece of #!&@", which is what I thought about the last Italian horn I bought (early 90s Borgani soprano).