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barisaxplayer
11-03-2004, 10:07 PM
I recently got a job at one of our music stores, and they have not had a person to manage the band instruments, as far as I can tell, ever. So I'm taking charge of it(as the onl band freak that works here) and I need to figure out what to get for brass horns.

I couldn't think of anywhere else(or find anywhere else) that had people I could talk to with firsthand experience on this or that. If somebody has a site for brass that's like sax on the web, please let me know!

Otherwise, I need to figure out some mouthpieces I'll need to get for the store.

I need to figure out some Affordable mouthpieces for students, as well as some good ones for students. I also need to know of some good pro mouthpieces.

Thanks a bunch guys!

Martin Williams
11-03-2004, 10:51 PM
Most the students is school bands are gonna be playing on Bach, Schilke, and Yamaha mps.

You would want to carry pieces in 1, 3, 5, and 7 for trumpet, cornet, flugel horn, etc.

For Tuba, baritones, trombones, other low brass, you would want to carry long shank and short shank pieces to accomodate all horns. I am not very sure what sizes would be ideal since I dont know tons about low brass.

One other thing; the polycarbonate mpcs for brass are great for marching bands, because they dont transfer heat or cold relative to outside temp. And the beginners love them because they come in a polethera of colors. Look into stocking or at least advertizing those too!

I hope this helps you out!

Martin Williams

gary
11-03-2004, 10:55 PM
If somebody has a site for brass that's like sax on the web, please let me know! For trumpets go to: http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/

I need to figure out some Affordable mouthpieces for students Well, you'll quickly come to grief about trumpet mpc's as you will with saxes but the Selmer C* of the trumpet world is probably a Bach 7C mpc. Those are pretty standard for what you're looking for.

The Trumpet Herald (the link above) will have answers to many of your questions.

Martin Williams
11-03-2004, 11:00 PM
The 7C is just what normally what comes with the horn. Depending on ability, most trumpet players have moved up to a 5 or 3C after about 2 years of playing. The smaller size basicall adds resistance which helps to build up chops and endurance. It also allows them to have better at hitting the high notes

Martin Williams

gary
11-03-2004, 11:13 PM
The 7C is just what normally what comes with the horn. Depending on ability, most trumpet players have moved up to a 5 or 3C after about 2 years of playing.
I was in university with many players who played 7C's right through college. Also worked with some who played 7C's beyond university. While I don't not recommend 5C's or 3C's that statement about most trumpeters jettisoning 7C's fairly quickly is not consistent with my experience.

Or, in other words, like I said, LOL:Well, you'll quickly come to grief about (opinions on) trumpet mpc's as you will with saxes

barisaxplayer
11-04-2004, 04:00 AM
Thanks a bunch guys :) This'll come in handy. I'll check it out tomorrow and make a list of "To order" 8)

Tom Goodrick
11-06-2004, 03:37 AM
Don't rush off and order something just yet. You may have been given some bum information. I have played trumpet, flugel horn and trombone for over 50 years. While it is very true that a Bach 7C is the main, basic piece for students and for many sidemen in bands, the cup gets shallower as the numbers get bigger! I use mainly a 10 1/2 C Bach piece on trumpet and can easily play everything from low G to double high F with it. It is a piece for advanced students to work into. On trombone many students start with a Bach 6 or 7. I have played a 12C for 45 years doing mostly solo work. I play the same range as on trumpet except an octave lower, of course. My flugelhorn piece is a 1F but the horn is a rare one -a Reynolds - bought new in 1967. Don't know how it compares with the many types available today.

You'll get a lot better info from a Trumpet Forum. Also an email to some brass instrument suppliers might help. Or just contact a local band
teacher.

After playing the Bach 10 1/2C for over 2 years, I went back to the 7C with its deeper cup. I get a fuller sound and better articulation both low and high. I am sticking with it for a while. The 10 1/2 C extended my upper range but now I can play those same notes and they sound better. It just takes a little more effort on the notes above high C.

mikwat1
12-31-2005, 02:12 AM
www.trombone.org

everything you ever wanted to know about trombones and low brass in general.

Radjammin
02-15-2006, 02:59 PM
For trumpets go to: http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/

Well, you'll quickly come to grief about trumpet mpc's as you will with saxes but the Selmer C* of the trumpet world is probably a Bach 7C mpc. Those are pretty standard for what you're looking for.

The Trumpet Herald (the link above) will have answers to many of your questions.

I am going to have to agree, with the other poster. Why would you carry alot of 7C mouthpieces when they come with most modern horns?

The guy that told you to carry Bach, Schilke, and Yamaha is exactly right. Also Trumpet mpcs are cheaper then Sax mouthpieces so there is really no reason to carry cheaper lines.

The guy that said to carry the polycarbonate mpc sounds like a good recommendation. Cold Metal Mouthpieces don't feel too good.

One small note, Schilke number system is a little different then Bach and Yamaha (le clone).

I play on a Bach 3C but like a 14A4A on Schilke. Schilke is really nice. and usually only a few more dollars.

Can't really help with the low brass other then stick with the same namebrands.