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gyrofrog.com
04-05-2003, 12:37 AM
Delay effects, for example. This is a long shot, but is anyone else here familiar with Pauline Oliveros? She has long been involved with electronic music and also plays accordion (in just-intonation). She has this CD called "Crone Music" which uses delays or some other kind of time-processing, to the point where it doesn't sound like an accordion at all, but rather like electronic textures. I'm not sure what sort of equipment she used for this (and the CD is a few years old), but it also seems to achieve some sort of pitch-bend.

I figure if it works for accordion it might work with a sax. I have a DOD Delay for electric guitar that sounds somewhat like an old tape-loop delay and I'm not sure it's really suited for this.

(She has another CD called "Deep Listening" which was recorded in an underground cistern -- it sounds like electronic music but it isn't!)

Media Lint
04-07-2003, 11:55 PM
I have deep listening, many digital delays/fx processors have LFO modulation which can change the pitch of the delayed signal over time, to a determined point from extremely subtle on the psychoacoustic level to space invaders effects and the gamut between. I am not familiar with the particular disc you site (I was much more interested in the natural reverb) ... but maybe this is what you describe?

sonofhop
04-08-2003, 02:11 AM
Pauline Oliveros performed for many years with a Lexicon PCM-42 based setup (see http://www.pofinc.org/EIShome.html for more info). I believe this system has now been replaced with custom software written using Cycling '74's Max/MSP.

I'm doing almost all my effects using Max/MSP. Very flexible, endlessly customizable, but certainly harder to make work than a simple stomp-box.

The closest thing to it in hardware may be the Clavia Nord Modular. I use a Micro Modular--an incredible FX box masquerading as a synth (it can't do much with delay-based FX, unfortunately).

I've used a Lexicon LXP-5 to good effect (pun intended) for delays. They're older (so cheap) but built like tanks (so they usually work), and like most Lexicon gear you can use MIDI to tweak the sound in real-time.

gyrofrog.com
04-08-2003, 03:17 PM
Wow, thanx for the info. I was curious how one might get this stuff to work in real-time, while also playing an instrument. Though I guess Panaiotis helped with this on the "Crone Music" CD.

There is also a short film called "Book of Shadows" for which she did the music. (I saw it at a film festival back in '94 and that was the first time I'd heard Pauline Oliveros, though I had read about her for years.) One of the instruments was a garden hose! I need to get that film because the music (to my knowledge) was not released on CD. If you like the "Deep Listening" CD then check out this film...

Sonofhop, FYI I lived in Austin until last Labor Day...

sonofhop
04-22-2003, 03:31 AM
Sonofhop, FYI I lived in Austin until last Labor Day...

And I lived in NYC until last Labor Day... We just missed each other.